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Check my new i7 extreme upgrade! What ya'l think?

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#1 ·
Hey guys so my first thread in this forum I was asking about a used intel extreme mobo and a 2600k CPU if it was a good upgrade, and tho it was a lot better than what I had now, you guys agreed that it was still out of date and for not much money more I could get something much more resent or brand new that would keep me going for years to come. So I thought about it and I'm glad I listened to you guys.. I think I'm gonna be much happier now. Thread name "is this an ok upgrade?"

I ended up going on newegg and found myself a great deal, I bought a z299 xtreme board with an intel i7- 7740x CPU, and 2x8gb corsair ddr4 3000mhz ram..

I got all this for $640 shipped to my door, which imo was the best deal for my needs. I mainly game with my pc but once and while I do video editing for my 4K drone.. I hope this is a great all around combo and would love to hear your guys opinions.

My plan was I originally buy the 7700k or the 6700k as it woulda been plenty, but looking around on newegg for hours I found I would have been spending nearly the exact same amount of money if not MORE for older technology.. I figured this setup was the best bang for my buck for sure..also I'm a huge into overclocking and have been wanting an x-series mobo and CPU for a long time, as it's made and intended to be leaned on pretty hard and is more built as a professional system. I did a lot of research before I bought it and all seemed good but I still have a lot of learning to do with all the new technology on these new boards.





My current setup is this..
Intel extreme DP55KG mobo
I7-875k processor 2.95ghz- overclocked to 4.3ghz stable
12gigs ram -corsair ddr3 1600mhz
2x -1T each HDD -seagate
1-120gb SSD -seagate
Gtx970 gaming edition
Corsair liquid cooler 240size radiator
Xeon 800watt modular power supply
Samsung cd/Dvd burner/writer
OS- Windows 10 Pro

Computer runs perfectly but the mobo, CPU, and ram is very outdated.. would Kiel to upgrade my gpu next but it's Honestly fine for now as I can play gta5 on ultra/very high settings..

My questions is, do you guys see anything else that I may need to upgrade or buy that I may be missing? Cuz I think everthing else other than my mobo, CPU, and ram are basically up to date and modern.. these are my last three hardware components that I have left to upgrade..

Would love to hear from somebody who has used or who knows about the z299 boards and what their thoughts are as well.

My only issue is where the 8pin power connector is located on the bee mobo, right now it's on the top left of my old mobo and it nearly reaches , I worry about it not reaching the new 8pin on the new board.. does the mobo come with a 8pin extension by chance? If not maybe I should buy one just to be sure I have no other issues when rebuilding my rig..
 
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#3 ·
Its X299 not Z299 and you really need to replace your old Xion (not Xeon) PSU
As for the CPU and motherboard you picked dont bother as its both worse then the older Z270

Half of the RAM slots wont work on the motherboard with the CPU you picked and some of the PCI-E slots wont work either or they will run at slower speed
Its a huge waste of money and you can get a faster system for much less with the old Z270.

Sory to tell you but your new system is a loopsided and terrible idea

Edit: an AMD Ryzen system would have been a better idea.
 
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I knew about some of the ram slots and pci slots not working cuz the processor won't support it.. but for gaming I don't see an issue at all.. that's why I went with it, but more improatonly i figure 2-5 years down the road I can easily upgrade to an even better processor when the time comes and when I need the extra ram and pci slots.. I don't plan on ever running dual gpu either ..

I hear where you are coming from but don't see how it's a total waste of money.. it was the Same money for a 6700k or a 7700k Cuz it was on sale which was why I jumped on it.

Also why do you think my psu needs an update, I know it's def older, but iv never has an issue power wise and even cranking the amps and voltage on the setup I have now iv never had a problem and it's always been able to deliver.. so can you talk more about as to WHY other than cuz it's old?

I know I can run the i9 processor In this mobo which is another reason I went wih it, cuz someday when the price drops I'll be able to easily upgrade with out changing my entire board and that was a main reason for choosing this board.

Also my spelling is all messed up cuz I'm using my iPhone it's correcting my words and I'm typing while at work so I'm in a rush so sorry about the spelling
 
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Also I don't like AMD.. never have never will.. not that it's not good cuz it is, and they have really stepped it up in the last few years.. but iv always been an intel guy my whole life.. I'm not gonna make the change now.. the Ryzen combos were around 500-550$ last night so again.. I spend 100$ more give or take to stay with intel.. I don't see it being a total waste of money like you say.
 
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If I was stuck with this board .. having the highest processor in it now being what I got, and never being able to go and father with it I would say it was a waste, but the fact that I can go so much father with this board makes it not a waste of money cuz I'm trying to think about the future as well and what upgrades i could later do.
 
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

Its X299 not Z299 and you really need to replace your old Xion (not Xeon) PSU
As for the CPU and motherboard you picked dont bother as its both worse then the older Z270

Half of the RAM slots wont work on the motherboard with the CPU you picked and some of the PCI-E slots wont work either or they will run at slower speed
Its a huge waste of money and you can get a faster system for much less with the old Z270.

Sory to tell you but your new system is a loopsided and terrible idea

Edit: an AMD Ryzen system would have been a better idea.
Jeez... way to dump on the guy after he spent almost a grand...

Factual post though.. Intel is doing you no favors nowadays. Enjoy your parts though
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Oh, and why don't you like AMD? I bet you couldn't even tell the difference in a blind test!
 
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Jeez... way to dump on the guy after he spent almost a grand...

Factual post though.. Intel is doing you no favors nowadays. Enjoy your parts though
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Oh, and why don't you like AMD? I bet you couldn't even tell the difference in a blind test!
I know intel has slowed way down in the last year at least or so.. but idk, just their platform their overclocking , the fact that I KNOW they can take a beating.. my old 875k is almost 10 years old -ish.. the abuse It's had from the previous guy who had it, was always rubbing hot 70s-80s for the last 5 years or so of Rd life, he never maintained or cleaned or blew the dust out in 8 years that he owned it. I got it all off him dirt cheap and rebuilt and re updated everthing but the board and CPU.. when I got it it was overclocked to like 3.8ghz I managed to lean on it so hard and get it to 4.3ghz , iv overvolted it and overheated it.. I did that just to see how much it could take.. I really do believe in notes extreme series specially their motherboards.. the kid was a smoker the entire mobo had a film on it, I Litterally bathed the board in 99% alcohol and scrubbed it with a paint brush to get it clean when I first got it off him.. and then overclocking it, adding crazy voltage to the board and the CPU and after all that it still working like a charm.. and 10 years later it's still fast as hell, I can play the latest games at practically max settings, and I still don't see it bottlenecking my gtx970.. I know if I upgraded to the 980ti it would tho.. but it just goes to show how well of a product they build and how tough those extreme boards are.. so I figure why not go with that again.. if I can have another setup that can run 10+ years of abuse and still be able to play current games then why not? I just don't like risking it all with some unproven processor , those ryzen are still very new and not a whole lot of ppl have had them all that long specially that many years ..

So that's my reasoning, plus knowing I can always upgrade to a 6 core or better processor down the road if I need to take advantage of my more pci and ram slots I can when I want/or have to.. I knew when I bought it that they weren't gonna work with that processor but I don't care.. it's for gaming .. I don't need 128gb or ram for that.. 16gb is gonna be plenty for now I don't plan to fill all my ram slots , I would buy a new processor way before I would even need to fill them all..

So that's why I went with it.. and like I said for 640$ vs $550 rezen with a cheaper mobo.. or 640$ for a 6700k and a z170 board.. it just helped me make my decision that much easier that for the money, I should get much longer upgradabitly and durability out of the extreme setup..

So before he started to bash what I Bought he shoulda asked why I bought it.. or maybe read all of my first post.

Also can anyone tell me why my 800watt power supply won't be enough for now? 800watt should be plenty with that setup? I don't plan to crank the voltage and average to the max straight away.. I'll prolly bump it up to 4.8ghz which can be done very easily.. and leave it there for at least a year or so untill I can get a better psu if I see any issues with power or voltage drop.. that psu was a very expensive and high end psu back 5 or 6 years ago even.. I don't see why it's not enough.. I could see if it was an offbrand cheapo.. but it's not. I can even post the specs for you guys if you wanna see them and lmk what you think.
 
#9 ·
The reason why you should replace your PSU is because its an old Super Flower multi rail PSU that is not very good

Its not a problem with not enough wattage its a problem of the PSU being of mediocre quality and that it has a bad multi rail setup which make it very easy to overload a rail and trigger the OCP to kick in and shut the PSU off
If you dont want to listen thats fine but you have been told so now.
 
#10 ·
Buys a x299 platform with 2 quad channel to use 2 sticks of ram. A 7600k would of been the exact same for less. I think you fail to realize the 7740k is the 7600k on a x299 board. The amount of fail is unreal for people who buy these setups. You could of gotten a better board at the same cost if u just went the z270 route and btw x299 gains you nothing compared to z270 "old technology' with that processor.

Side note Extreme edition will run 2k
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Yes but what you fail to realize is this.. the z270 boards are done.. what I meant by old technology is the fact that the 7700k is the highest CPU for that board.. that's it.. once that's out of date then what? Evtually no matter what your next board will have to be the x299 or better.. I saved myself that hassle. I already had a board previously with the highest processor available in it and I don't like the feeling of not being able to go higher..

And what am I loosing out on? I'll have 16xpcie for my single graphics card.. which is all I'm ever gonna run.. so that's that.. and with the dual channel memory instead of quad channel .. big deal, does the z270 have quad? No.. can you even have the chance to run quad? No ... this 7740x is just a stepping stone for me.. it's a great processor with limitations of this board.. but for me, none of those limitations matter.. it's not gonna bother me in any way as suppose to the z270.. later down the road as I said... I plan to upgrade my processor in which then I will have more cores and also will have full functionality of the board.. but even for now I'm not missing out on a dang thing from z270 other than "a better board" and spend no more money than I would have if I gotten the z270.. which by the way, would actually end up costing me more money in the long run cuz the next time I would wanna upgrade my processor on the z270 I will have to upgrade both my MOBO and CPU... so I just don't agree with you guys one bit..

Also, i do agree that UPGRADING TO a x299 board and 7740x would be a Complete waste of money.. but for an upgrade from where I was at.. you might as well say I was in the Stone Age.. there was nothing wrong with what I chose.. I'm a big overclocker, read up about those boards. Guys with the 7740x have gotten them the farthest OC on the same board I bought. Also these are heavy duty boards where they Litterally beefed up everthing for the pure sake of overclocking .. as I said before I'm a huge overclocker and the security of durability and overclock ability is huge to me.. might not be to you guys but it is to me.. I really don't think you guys know as much as you think you do.. set aside the Ryzen chips.. I truly felt what I bought suited my needs the best.. and specially for the money I got it on.. my performance will be BETTER of a z270 7700k not a ton better but when you figure overclock into the equation and upgradabilty in my opinion it is.. I don't ever wanna spend that kind of money on a board that can. No longer support the latest cpus.. that's just stupidity!!

Lastly about the psu, I have a 750watt evga gold brand new at my house.. I planned to use it on another build , I feel that my psu will be fine for now, but if I notice humming.. which btw I would think I would hear humming before it just quit on me.. or if it quits .. then I'll pop in my 750watt new evga gold.. so that's not a big deal.. I was just hoping I could still use the one I'm using now cuz I really like the way it looks. And the build quality of it .. time will tell.. but I'm gonna give it a shot
 
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Btw I really don't care about wifi cuz I plan on getting a m.2 card and Bluetooth I don't use.. and if I ever need it it's cheap and easy to get .. I have a wifi card iv been using on my old setup that will also work fine, and I game with it all the time with out a hitch
 
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The only negative things being said online about this setup I got is the fact that you shouldn't upgrade to it from a z270.. and that if your were buying a new setup like I was .. that being the huge difference in price with the motherboards from the z270 to the x299 it wouldn't be worth it specially going with the 7740x cuz the gains would be minimal.. but the fact that it was the exact same price when I bought mine.. being that they had a huge special on the board and chip I got I saved over 120-130$ right off the top of the regular price.. like I said before .. to me, I would rather spend that same kinda money on basically the same performance that I can upgrade cpus I the future -x299 than spent the same amount of money with less overclocking , slightly less ghz, and no way to upgrade my CPU in the future -z270 and that's what it boiled down to to me. Why you guys are bashing me idk. But I could really care less at this point what you think. I learn this type of stuff instantly fast .. i spent 4 hours last night alone reading on all the pros and cons of my new setup and none of the characters me pertained to me because of the way I plan on setting it up and the way I plan on using it.

I have the spare 750 evga power supply already that I have if I feel I need it. Other than that I'll be all set ..
 
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Also I don't like AMD.. never have never will.. not that it's not good cuz it is, and they have really stepped it up in the last few years.. but iv always been an intel guy my whole life.. I'm not gonna make the change now.. the Ryzen combos were around 500-550$ last night so again.. I spend 100$ more give or take to stay with intel.. I don't see it being a total waste of money like you say.
Thats what Intel have relied on for the last 5+ years, people who keep giving them money for stagnant products and zero development.

The 7740X is garbage. Overpriced **** under another layer of crap TIM and a heatspreader rather than soldered.
Limited to 16 PCIE lanes.... 1 graphics card. Want to go SLI or add a sound card? You become gimped on the lanes
RAM limited to 2666Mhz so your 3000MHz Corsair modules will be limited, if they even work at the lower freq
112w TDP?! You gonna be running some custom water cooling on that or hope your old Corsair AiO can cope?

This is what happens when you try to go high end on a budget: you end up with something worse than the mainstream offering (ie, Z270 and 6700k or 7700k) or what the competition offers (Ryzen or Threadripper).
 
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#16 ·
I find it hilarious that you bought a motherboard designed to support 10 or 12 or however many cores Intel is making with Skylake-X and you comboed it with a quad core processor and think you got a deal.

Yes, you have a distinct upgrade path. That path is only adding more cores. If you ever actually need more cores, I guess it isn't a bad investment. You could have accomplished the same thing with an AM4 setup. I understand brand loyalty, but "never have never will" is an extremely bad reason to disregard AMD.

You got put together. You did research and asked for opinions before spending money before, then made this purchase on a whim because you thought it was a good deal. You could have gotten opinions to find out it wasn't a good deal, but it's your money. You certainly got an upgrade, but you paid more than you should have for the performance you will get.
 
#17 ·






The build went perfect and smooth, fired up first try, power supply is having zero issues and the pc is quite as a church mouse. Even more quite than the old setup..

I'm 100% satisfied with what I got. Don't really care what you guys think at this point. I have my reasons and I know my reasons for buying this setup.

I plan on building another pc soon and will most likely put this processor into the next build and will prolly go with the 6core or sky lake x professor in this build next time.. time will tell but for now I'm insanely happy.. it's running 15x faster than my old setup and all my applications are running flawlessly ..

Instead of doing a clean install which I know is the best way, i decided to give it a wack at saving my existing OS.. I created a Microsoft account and linked my account to my Microsoft key before shutting down my old setup for the last time.. I also whipped clean all of my existing motherboard drivers so that It didn't have any confusion for the new motherboard drivers .. as I said all the apps are working. No error codes, no noises, fired up first try never had to switch a stingle wire or connector. I'm glad the build went good.

Power supply seems to be fine just like I thought .. it had every connector I needed just like I knew it did. And it is a heavy duty power supply .. it may be older but it's built better than half the crap out there I see today. Time will tell, and if it goes, then I'll replace it no big deal. But for now everthing is smooth sailing and everthing works flawlessly, Drivers included.

You guys may not like my build but I do. It's a huge jump from where I was at, and I have a purpose for it. Thanks for all your help. I'll tune you in on the next build.
 
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The problem with transplanting that CPU into another build is that's an insanely expensive quad core build. It wasn't about us not liking it, it was about you spending your money inefficiently. That's why we originally suggested you pass on the Sandy Bridge. As long as you're happy, that's all that matters.
 
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lol the comments on this thread is making OP a bit butthurt.

how much did you spend on this setup? whatevver u spend i'm sure you could've got the same performance more or less with a ryzen or z270 setup. and use the money left over to buy a gtx 1070 or a new 4k monitor.

i get the whole allowing yourself more room for future upgrade but in this case your upgrade path is just more cores, so unless you run VM or do crazy video editing having more cores won't benefit you.
 
#20 ·
I can understand the want for six or eight cores, but anything beyond that is a tad silly at present, at least for gaming. With Coffee Lake looking like Intel is finally bringing six cores to mainstream, there's little reason to explore a HEDT build for most gamers.
 
#21 ·
The OP is a funny character. He asks how'd he do with his new purchase and then when everybody here states he spent more than he had to on an upgrade that was sideways at best, he goes " I don't care what anybody says"
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And here I thought my upgrade from a 4790K was bad
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Enjoy your new rig OP, but you do know mostly everyone here is right.
 
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Getting mugged means you would have at least reluctantly given up your money
I concur!
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#24 ·
This wasn't a sidegrade at all. It definitely was an upgrade, just an inefficient use of funds.
 
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This wasn't a sidegrade at all. It definitely was an upgrade, just an inefficient use of funds.
I agree whole-heartedly. It's like when I upgraded from the 4790K/Z97 platform to my current setup. The reasons I upgraded was it was 2 platforms ahead, and I had the xtra funds that I wanted to upgrade, not because I needed to. I also sold my 4790K/Z97 board, chip and ram to offset 60% of the upgrade cost so it was a win-win. No regrets and I'm happy with my decision. I also got the psu @ 1/2 the retail cost which was even better. Was using a 1350w Silverston Zeus which i also sold for $100 bones so the psu upgrade was free
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If you guys read my first post it says what I spent.. I spent 640$ all togeher shipped.. I agree that anything over 8 cores is useless right now but down the road when applications catch up to the cores then there will be a significant benifit.. why would Intel make more cores If there was no point to it, why would any company do that? Clearly down the road as programs get better they will use more multi threading in gaming and applications to where it will be of use..

When I made the buy I was only using new egg cuz that's where I had the Financing to do so.. I didn't wanna spend more than 600-650$ I mean not a $1 more. Cuz I have a bonus coming which is 350$ and I saved 300$ so that's where my budget came into play. So when my first month bill comes I can just pay the new egg card off..

For 640$ there wasn't much that was a whole lot better.. z270 wise.. i was mainly looking at the package deals, as I said before yes I coulda gotten a 7700k with a slightly better motherboard in that I woulda had Bluetooth and wifi capabilitys and such but then I was gonna have a chip that would run way hotter than the 7740x, and overclock less. I have a lot of fun overclocking so having a chip and board that was practically made and designed for it was what turned me on the most about it.. the 7700k tops out at 5ghz if your really really lucky, but that's about the roof on it. I wanted more out of my chip. I was gonna go with the 6core x-series but they were all sold out.. and I woulda just waited to buy my ram so I coulda kept the price still around 600-650$ but they were sold out till god knows when.. so weighing my odds I finally chose the x299 with the 7740x.. knowing I only had 16pcie lanes didn't bother me cuz I knew I wasn't never gonna run more than one graphics card.. and having only 64gb of ram didn't bother me cuz seriously when am I gonna need more than that? It will be a long time till I do, and once I do need more than that I'll have prolly already upgraded to the 6 or 8 core x-series processor anyway which will open up the other two channels..

It's not like I paid out the butt for what I got, conspiring what was in sale THAT night, and comparing what was in stock and not in stock.. the real only difference woulda been a slightly better z270 board with a 7700k or a slightly better z170 with a 6700k.. I already had it in my mind that I wanted another i7 intel processor so take AMD totally out of the equitation.. the prices of the 6700k with the z170 vs the prices of the 7700k with the z270 were both around $600-680$ with 16gb of ram .. give or take a little on the price.. so spending 640$ on the setup I got, thinking in the future that I had litany of headroom on the processor and could easily upgrade to more ram in the future as well made it an easier choice.. plus after reading about the x299 board I got, and how it uses high grade caps and heavy duty parts specially built for overclocking (which is what I love to do) I said why not... other than not being able to use more than 16pcie lanes when running DUAL gpu's (which I'll never do..) and other than only having 64gb Ram rather than 128gb the setup I got can perform nearly just the same as the z270 but with a higher overclockability and with cooler CPU temps. That's why I did it. I really don't see why we are still talking about it. IM happy with it, truely love it. The build couldn't have gone smoother and every function works flawlessly along with all my applications and games. I'm very pleased.

As I said before I plan to eventually upgrading to the 6 core i7x and using the one I have now for another build some time down the Road whenever I decide to upgrade the CPU. And once I have a 6 core then I'll really have no limitations and I will have full functionality of the board, even tho as of now it doesn't bother me one bit having the slight limitations.

I appreciate all your guys comments.. as I said I did my research and knew what I was buying.. I saw the pricing on new egg and compaired, I even wrote down the bundle deals on a peice of paper with the prices and specs, I went back and forth looking all over new egg and at the end I felt For MY needs and purposes that this board and CPU were the best option with what I was delt and with what I had to spend.
 
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