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Yeah I get what you're saying, what's confusing is I've restarted my machine heaps of times over the last few weeks without seeing it, then straight after a Windows 10 update it happens had me scratching my head.
I'll try some more stress testing on my memory again, any suggestions besides stressapptest, memtestx86, HCI memtest and AIDIA64?

If you're happy with where you're at, I wouldn't push the boat out. Just use the machine until something else ominous crops up smile.gif. Still waiting for the update to install in the background here.
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If you're happy with where you're at, I wouldn't push the boat out. Just use the machine until something else ominous crops up smile.gif. Still waiting for the update to install in the background here.

I'm trying to replicate the problem, but I can't for the life of me, even tried a clean install on a second drive, not that adventurous to roll back the BIOS and try again biggrin.gif

Just wish I could pick up the instability, that old OCD kicks in making you want to look for it tongue.gif
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I'm trying to replicate the problem, but I can't for the life of me, even tried a clean install on a second drive, not that adventurous to roll back the BIOS and try again biggrin.gif

Just wish I could pick up the instability, that old OCD kicks in making you want to look for it tongue.gif

At least you managed to grab the update, mine is refusing to download/install currently biggrin.gif
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Hello,

I just upgraded my 4.5 years old ASUS RIVE+3930K+H100i+G.Skill 8x4GB 1600MHz setup to new X299-Deluxe+7820X+H115i+G.Skill 3000MHz Trident Z RGB 4x8GB.

So far so good. After initial and typical pain of migrating existing Windows 10 installation onto new piece of HW, everything looks good. I'm still on stock clocks and XMP 3000MHz RAM, this alone gives me +70% points in CineBench 15 vs 3930K which for years was overclocked to 4.2GHz. No stability issues I was initially suffering on SB-E/X79 platform.

ASUS X299-Deluxe seemed to be the best choice for my needs (assuming keeping my long term policy of picking ASUS boards only).
What I don't like:
- white and black colors not to my personal taste (I liked black and red RIVE a lot more).
- one midboard USB3 connector blocked by graphics card
- RAM sticks stay lit on standby (I had to switch to hibernating to keep them off)
- AURA software which lacks A LOT OF functionality - RGB addresable stripes shine like sun for most effects and I could use sunglasses (except static and breathing effects where you can set your own brightness). No option to set different effects on RAM and on addresable stripe etc. (eg. rainbow on RAM and static on addressable stripe). I have eventually decided to use my old red-only LED stripe with HW brightness controller and not install AURA software at all, sticking to default Trident Z 'rainbow waterfall' effect.

The only issue so far - were you able to use LiveDash software ? I upgraded LED controller to latest FW, BIOS is latest but still LiveDash software seems to have no effect on what's displayed on the panel - it shows CPU temp only (and ASUS logo on restart).
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@schoolofmonkey For what it's worth, the update installed on my system no problem.
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@schoolofmonkey For what it's worth, the update installed on my system no problem.

Yeah I wouldn't call it a problem because the message was there all of 5 seconds and continue to boot normally.
If I wasn't sitting in front of my machine I wouldn't of seen it at all.

I did notice my Boot Device Control was set to UEFI only where before the update it was UEFI and Legacy due to using Linux.
Edited by schoolofmonkey - 10/19/17 at 4:20am
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I swapped Corsair LPX 3200 CL16 kit (Hynix, never again) for G.Skill Trident Z 3600 CL16 modules (should have B-dies in them). However, I don't think I am getting the best of them considering what others have posted here.

Specs:
Core i7 7820X @ 4500 core, 3000 cache
ASUS X299 TUF Mark 1, bios 0802
4x8GB G.Skill Trident Z 3600 CL16 (16-16-16-36) [2x F4-3600C16D-16GTZ]

I've tried going for 4000 with default timings (but 360 trfc), 1T command rate, and 1.435V, but AIDA reported errors just minutes in. And even then I barely got 100GB/s bandwidth and ~53.5ns latency.

Currently I am running this:





I've read what I could, but I am hitting a wall in the form of specifics for my MB / RAM kit / platform and don't know how to improve the performance any further. When I tried 300 trfc I got BSOD when booting OS (though at 4000Mhz, haven't tried lower than 360 for 3800), but guys have been using 280 trfc with ~110+GB/s bandwidth and ~48ns latency - perhaps they have that much superior RAM? I would like to get the latency as low as possible (even at the cost of bandwidth as I don't need that much).

Could someone please take a look at those timings and tell me if there's anything wrong? Could I get close to 50ns mem latency with this hardware at all? Any advice or tips would be much appreciated.

PS: the old Corsair kit @ 3200 15-17-17-33 (1T, 480 trfc) gave me ~64ns latency and 105 FPS in FC Primal benchmark at 720p. The new kit at 3800 16-16-16-36 (360 trfc) pushed it to 115 FPS, so Skylake-X really likes fast RAM.
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Sorry guys, even the latest Thaiphoon Burner version 11.2 does not support accessing SPD on the X299 platform due to the lack of technical documentation. Intel still haven't made the required document to be public available on its website, I mean the "Intel Core X-Series Processor Family Datasheet, Volume 2". If I had this document I would make you happy.

Thanks!! I check the website weekly hoping for it to happen soon, I stopped playing with the Aura Sync until I have Thaiphoon properly working.
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I've read what I could, but I am hitting a wall in the form of specifics for my MB / RAM kit / platform and don't know how to improve the performance any further. When I tried 300 trfc I got BSOD when booting OS (though at 4000Mhz, haven't tried lower than 360 for 3800), but guys have been using 280 trfc with ~110+GB/s bandwidth and ~48ns latency - perhaps they have that much superior RAM? I would like to get the latency as low as possible (even at the cost of bandwidth as I don't need that much).

Could someone please take a look at those timings and tell me if there's anything wrong? Could I get close to 50ns mem latency with this hardware at all? Any advice or tips would be much appreciated.

PS: the old Corsair kit @ 3200 15-17-17-33 (1T, 480 trfc) gave me ~64ns latency and 105 FPS in FC Primal benchmark at 720p. The new kit at 3800 16-16-16-36 (360 trfc) pushed it to 115 FPS, so Skylake-X really likes fast RAM.

You should be able to double your trefi for a quick boost in numbers. Should not affect stability with B die. Overclocking the mesh a ratio or two above what you have now will also help in games and benches.

Don't worry too much about FC primal at 720p. Most games at more realistic resolutions won't really show that sort of response to faster ram. You are already doing pretty well and much better than XMP.
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I doubled trefi and boy, what a nice boost from that. Thanks!


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You should be able to double your trefi for a quick boost in numbers. Should not affect stability with B die. Overclocking the mesh a ratio or two above what you have now will also help in games and benches.

Yeah, overclocking the mesh always hepls, but if I went from 3 to 3.2Ghz, I would probably need something like 1.15V for it instead of 0.95V which I am using now. I figure it's not worth the added heat (and possibly faster degradation?) to gain a couple of points in benchmarks. My target is to have a nice stable 24/7 setup - longetivity and consistency is important to me.
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Don't worry too much about FC primal at 720p. Most games at more realistic resolutions won't really show that sort of response to faster ram. You are already doing pretty well and much better than XMP.
Well, FC is actually CPU bound even in 1080p, though just barely (but then again totally would with a 1080Ti or the upcoming Volta generation since I am using the standard 8GB GTX 1080). I chose it because it has a really nicely consistent and quick benchmark. But CPU bottlenecking is a thing and it's gonna get worse before it gets any better is new and more powerful GPUs are released. For instance in the new Unreal Tournament I have like 90FPS in the most demanding spot on Titan Pass at max settings @ 2560x1440 with ~80% GPU usage - that's pretty bad, but I guess it's the developers fault.

So, I guess that's it for my RAM tuning? There's one last thing I can think of: most of the timings (trfc included) are dependent on the RAM frequency, right? Since trfc around 300 caused BSOD at 4000Mhz, would it be correct to assume that I could try it again at 3800Mhz? Or just don't bother?

EDIT: Okay, I went ahead and tried lowering trfc from 360 to 300, and so far it looks like it will work out. Here's probably the final setup:



I am pretty happy with that all things considered. smile.gif
Edited by Sobo - 10/20/17 at 10:06am
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