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Raijintek MORPHEUS II CORE EDITION: dissipates up to 360 Watts of heat? Really?

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#1 ·
Title says it all, is this figure at all realistic?

http://www.raijintek.com/en/products_detail.php?ProductID=46

"MORPHEUS II CORE EDITION, whole heatsink black coated, a superior high-end VGA cooler, designed to meet cooling capacity up to 360 Watts of TDP."

Is this a calculated figure or a measured figure? If calculated was it based on ambient temperatures found in the Arctic Circle? If measured, was it measured from inside a meat locker? Or maybe they used some of the Delta finger chopper fans that can levitate on their own?
 
#2 ·
Since there are no standards in place for this "measurement", I could market a ketchup packet and say that it has 360 watts of heat dissipation capabilities. Looking at this rating is a bit of nonsense. You are better off finding results from actual users....which will be very good, btw.
 
#3 ·
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Originally Posted by 8051 View Post

Title says it all, is this figure at all realistic?

http://www.raijintek.com/en/products_detail.php?ProductID=46

"MORPHEUS II CORE EDITION, whole heatsink black coated, a superior high-end VGA cooler, designed to meet cooling capacity up to 360 Watts of TDP."

Is this a calculated figure or a measured figure? If calculated was it based on ambient temperatures found in the Arctic Circle? If measured, was it measured from inside a meat locker? Or maybe they used some of the Delta finger chopper fans that can levitate on their own?
Good question. Either way I seriously doubt you will be able to cool a 360w heat source regardless of how GPU is mounted .. and definitely not if GPU attached to motherboard. The PCB and fill alignment forces cooler airflow 2 ways; toward motherboard and toward case side. This means airflow toward motherboard has no place for it to go back back into cooler unless GPU is mounted remotely like with . so no way it will cool 360w if GPU is mounted to motherboard. Even if remotely mounted it will need side vents matching it's fans to flow cool air into or hot air out of cooler .. and it will be with lots of noise for fans to supply the needed airflow.

I have not tested the Morpheus but I know a guy who did test it as well as Alpenfohn Peter (not sure which model) and Prolimatech MK-26. As I remember all three are quite good with only a couple of degrees celsius differences. The MK-26 was comparitively better at lower fan speeds. Both seemed about the same with both 140mm fans & 120mm fans. But there are so many variables involved it's hard to say if one is really better than another. I have dimensional drawing of all three as well as Accelero Extreme if needed.
 
#4 ·
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Good question. Either way I seriously doubt you will be able to cool a 360w heat source regardless of how GPU is mounted .. and definitely not if GPU attached to motherboard. The PCB and fill alignment forces cooler airflow 2 ways; toward motherboard and toward case side. This means airflow toward motherboard has no place for it to go back back into cooler unless GPU is mounted remotely like with . so no way it will cool 360w if GPU is mounted to motherboard. Even if remotely mounted it will need side vents matching it's fans to flow cool air into or hot air out of cooler .. and it will be with lots of noise for fans to supply the needed airflow.

I have not tested the Morpheus but I know a guy who did test it as well as Alpenfohn Peter (not sure which model) and Prolimatech MK-26. As I remember all three are quite good with only a couple of degrees celsius differences. The MK-26 was comparitively better at lower fan speeds. Both seemed about the same with both 140mm fans & 120mm fans. But there are so many variables involved it's hard to say if one is really better than another. I have dimensional drawing of all three as well as Accelero Extreme if needed.
I had thought of using a MNPCTech remote mounting, but how reliable are the PCIe extension cables? I'd guess they add more reactive and resistance load to the PCIe connector which wouldn't be a good thing if its connected directly to the CPU.
 
#5 ·
I know I probably shouldn't ask this, but would a 120x49mm CLC (e.g. Corsair H80i, Thermaltake Water 3.0 Pro, Antec 920 or Zalman LQ320) potentially have better performance than a maxed out (configured for best performance) Raijintek Morpheus II?
 
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#7 ·
I was actually looking at this cooler for a Node 202 build with case fans cooling the card since the card laying down. I have an itch to build a new full build. I have this idea of large passive type coolers for both cpu and gpu with case fans only in the smallest space i can.
 
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I know I probably shouldn't ask this, but would a 120x49mm CLC (e.g. Corsair H80i, Thermaltake Water 3.0 Pro, Antec 920 or Zalman LQ320) potentially have better performance than a maxed out (configured for best performance) Raijintek Morpheus II?
By a degree or two maybe, but the air coolers will be quieter and have the benefit of active VRM cooling. Here are some reviews I found to this effect once, but many of them have poor testing standards, so take with salt:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.tomshardware.de/raijintek-morpheus-vga-cooler-hawaii-review,testberichte-241525-2.html&prev=search
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?289345-Raijintek-Morpheus
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cooling/77237-corsair-hydro-series-hg10/?page=4
290 - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2014/11/18/corsair-hydro-series-hg10-review/2 - delta - 38
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/Hardware/2D-3D/unique-cooling-watercooling-sujet_961851_1.htm&prev=search - 60/55
http://www.legitreviews.com/nzxt-kraken-g10-gpu-water-cooler-review-on-an-amd-radeon-r9-290x_130344/4 - 64/52
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Using-NZXT-Kraken-G10-Watercool-Radeon-R9-290/Performance-Results - 98/78
https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/henry-butt/raijintek-morpheus-gpu-cooler-review/6/
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/kuehlung/24600-test-prolimatech-mk-26.html?start=1
https://www.eteknix.com/prolimatech-mk-26-multi-vga-cooler-review/6/
http://pcfoster.pl/artykul/prolimatech-black-series-mk-26---blacksilent-pro-120-edition-%E2%80%93-test/1145-4.html
 
#9 ·
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Originally Posted by 8051 View Post

I had thought of using a MNPCTech remote mounting, but how reliable are the PCIe extension cables? I'd guess they add more reactive and resistance load to the PCIe connector which wouldn't be a good thing if its connected directly to the CPU.
I doubt a quality PCIe extension is a problem. I haven't used one in years but when I did it worked with no problems.
 
#10 ·
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Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post

Their method of counting heatpipes is creative.

It's more like 6 x 6mm.

As far as performance, tomshardware has it as a 20°C-25°C drop in GPU temp vs Asus R9 290X DirectCU II Top , MSI R9 290X Lightning , as well as GTX 780 reference cooler (per play3r)

This review compares it to CLC coolers
https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/henry-butt/raijintek-morpheus-gpu-cooler-review/7/

Good point about the 'creative' heatpipes.
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Maybe only 4x heatpipes. After all the size of GPU processor is about as big or slightly bigger than 2x heatpipes wide in a square / rectangular spot under the cooler base.

The KitGuru test is not comparing coolers on their own merit, but instead comparing how different coolers perform in his Corsair Obsidian 780T system.
Test System
Processor: Intel Core i7-3930K
Motherboard: Asus P9X79
Memory: 16 GB (4 x 4 GB) Mushkin Blackline 1600 MHz
Thermal Paste: Noctua NT-H1
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon R9 290X
Power Supply: Seasonic Platinum P1000W

We need to be very careful about confusing cooler performance comparisons versus system performance comparisons with different coolers.

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Originally Posted by Namwons View Post

I was actually looking at this cooler for a Node 202 build with case fans cooling the card since the card laying down. I have an itch to build a new full build. I have this idea of large passive type coolers for both cpu and gpu with case fans only in the smallest space i can.
I don't think know it will fit on a GPU in Node 202 .. even with no fans it takes up 2x PCIe spaces .. abd Node 202 only has 2 PCIe spaces .. PCIe socket spacing is 20.32mm and Morpheus is 44mm from GPU chip to outer edge of fins.
 
#11 ·
Hi there

Not sure if it will dissipate 360W worth of heat but in my case has been pretty good on EVGA GTX Titan X SC with 1469MHz OC and temperatures has been under 50 with fans running at 1000-1200RPM

But still don't understand why they tests GPU cooler or any GPU with Furmark,you will never see such load on GPU in normal operation, maybe when you will be mining or Folding@home but still there I would downvolt my GPU and lower clocks

I still have my Raijintek Morpheus II at home and I'm happy to borrow it for someone to test it as I've been very happy with performance

Just I would add,use good fans if you will go with this cooler, I controlled my fans EK Vardar F3 1850RPM on this cooler through the fan controller as fan control on my board has been bit strange with EK Vardar F3 1850RPM

Hope this helps

Thanks, Jura
 
#12 ·
The air fury unlocked pump 300+w in furmark, and that cooler keep it real cool. The Morpheus is slightly smaller, so ramping up the fan will be fine.

But the real problem again is vrm, those will cook if the card is eating 300w without some beefy direct contact heatsink on them. Remember you are blowing hot hot air on them.
 
#13 ·
I don't see why not. Some of the 1080ti's will pull that much power or more. Even my old msi duke 1080 would pull 290-300 watts in firestrike ultra stay around 80c max with a **** cooler that only had 3 heatpipes.
 
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