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My three options as I see it.

So I have three 4TB HDD's with combined data of about 9 TB's in my Tower all hooked up and running. I also have a smaller HDD for just the OS on it. So I'm thinking it's time that I backup this data before one of them breaks. I'd like to use a cloud service like Back-blaze but after talking to the rep he told me that it would take like 6 months to upload 9TB's of personal data, I told him I couldn't do that, due to I'm not keeping my PC on all the time and I get a lot of thunderstorms in my area. I asked if I could mail them the HDD's but they don't offer that service. I wish I could find one that does offer that service though and be around for the long haul.

Second option would be getting NAS tower for RAID 5 on it but their expensive and seems complicated, this data is only for me. I've seen some little NAS towers for $300, but I guess in the end it seems like it's complicated, it's hooking it up and setting up RAID 5 too. If I used RAID 5 I wouldn't need to buy and more HDD's except maybe one. Is that right I would have my current three HDD's but would need to get a one extra one for RAID 5 to work or would I need two extra 4TB HDD's for it to work ? By the way some of you are saying you still need to have a complete extra set of backups due to virus/fire/more then one HDD's that fails at the same time. Well it's important but not that important. Plus I'm not spending $300 on a NAS and another $300 on a backup set, ain't gonna happen.

Third option would be buy three new 4TB HDD's and copy over the data to a new set of HDD's, Micro Center having a deal right now they have 4TB HDD's on sale for $99. The thing that sucks about this though it's kinda a pain in the but that once a year I'll have to update each of these backups, which means unplugging the tower from where it's at replace drives, plug back in copy over each one completely because of new stuff and updated stuff I put on their during the year. Also a con to this would be when I copy data over the backup set, how do I know what I'm backing up isn't corrupted that over the years time files got corrupted and I'd be coping data over good solid data and I would never know, and when I did find out the backups also had the corrupted data too.
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To reasonably ensure your data is safe, it needs to exist in three places, usually on the computer, on an onsite backup, and on an offsite backup.

In your case, I suggest you get six 4TB HDDs for backups. I use and recommend a folder/file syncing program called FreeFileSync to initially populate, then later update my backup drives. Each drive in your computer needs to be backed up to a set of two backup drives. Once all your data has been backed up, then store one drive of each set of backup drives onsite somewhere at home and store the other drive of each set offsite somewhere away from the house, such as a locked desk drawer or locker at work or school, a trusted friend's, neighbor's, or relative's home, or in a safe deposit box at your financial institution (I use the latter). The onsite and offsite backups should be swapped out as often as possible.

If funds are limited, just three 4TB onsite backup drives would be a good start until you can afford the three offsite backup drives.

The initial backup will take quite a while because all the data in you computer has to be copied over to the backup drives. Once that initial backup has been done, updates will be considerably faster because only data on your computer that has been added or changed since the last update will be copied to the backup drive and only files that are no longer on the computer's drive will deleted from the backup drive. FreeFileSync has an optional feature called Versioning that will send deleted files to a Versioning folder or drive of your choice. I highly recommend using versioning for protection against accidentally deleted files.

I also recommend that you use a program like Macrium Reflect Free to image the drive with your OS on it and store the images on one of the data drives in your computer which will be backed up when you backup that data drive. Imaging is the best way to backup the OS and programs since they can't be merely copied to another drive and still work. However, imaging is too slow and requires too much room to backup data; folder/file syncing is faster and more efficient.
     
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you should also rent a safe deposit box in the cayman islands with AES 256 bit encryption with the decryption file buried next to your pet squirrel you had but never told your parents about.
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you should also rent a safe deposit box in the cayman islands with AES 256 bit encryption with the decryption file buried next to your pet squirrel you had but never told your parents about.

rolleyes.gif There's one in every crowd.
     
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rolleyes.gif There's one in every crowd.

thumb.gif ok captain overkill
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thumb.gif ok captain overkill

Anyone who thinks what I suggested is overkill needs to read the article written by Sean Webster, one of OCN's Drive and backup gurus. Just click on the top link in my sig to read the article.
     
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Redundancy and backing up are not the same. Like mentioned a true backup will include something not in the same house/apartment to cover a worst case scenario such as a fire.

To start, a copy of drives in a fire safe at home or in a safety deposit box would be best.

If the data isn't THAT important to you then you could consider raid for a minor safety net or maybe backup only a portion.
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Well it's important but not enough for offsite copy. So it seems you guys are pretty much suggesting make a back up on three new HDD's and screw the other options. But this whole unplugging installing/removing is time consuming and it just sucks.

What if I got a hot swap bay for 3.5" HDDs like this one:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817998020&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=hot_swap_bay-_-17-998-020-_-Product
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Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post

To reasonably ensure your data is safe, it needs to exist in three places, usually on the computer, on an onsite backup, and on an offsite backup.

In your case, I suggest you get six 4TB HDDs for backups. I use and recommend a folder/file syncing program called FreeFileSync to initially populate, then later update my backup drives. Each drive in your computer needs to be backed up to a set of two backup drives. Once all your data has been backed up, then store one drive of each set of backup drives onsite somewhere at home and store the other drive of each set offsite somewhere away from the house, such as a locked desk drawer or locker at work or school, a trusted friend's, neighbor's, or relative's home, or in a safe deposit box at your financial institution (I use the latter). The onsite and offsite backups should be swapped out as often as possible.

If funds are limited, just three 4TB onsite backup drives would be a good start until you can afford the three offsite backup drives.

The initial backup will take quite a while because all the data in you computer has to be copied over to the backup drives. Once that initial backup has been done, updates will be considerably faster because only data on your computer that has been added or changed since the last update will be copied to the backup drive and only files that are no longer on the computer's drive will deleted from the backup drive. FreeFileSync has an optional feature called Versioning that will send deleted files to a Versioning folder or drive of your choice. I highly recommend using versioning for protection against accidentally deleted files.

I also recommend that you use a program like Macrium Reflect Free to image the drive with your OS on it and store the images on one of the data drives in your computer which will be backed up when you backup that data drive. Imaging is the best way to backup the OS and programs since they can't be merely copied to another drive and still work. However, imaging is too slow and requires too much room to backup data; folder/file syncing is faster and more efficient.


Well well FreeFileSync does seem very interesting, but using macrium for my OS HDD isn't necessary the backups is all I'm concerned about. So basically I should just get three new 4TB's HDD's and use FreeFileSync.

Only problem though so lets say one of my HDD's is going bad and has corrupted some files (this is assuming the HDD is still working but it's going bad) then I decide to to update my back up HDD's isn't the corrupted data going to go on the back HDD's, and I would I ever know that the the data I'm backing up isn't corrupted ?

It would be nice when HDD go bad that they break completely right away, which then I would know right away. But HDD's don't really work that way right ? Isn't it possible that the HDD will function for a certain period of time but in that time it could be corrupting some of my files and in that time I could copy that over to my back HDD and not even know for a while and I would have lost my good safe backup data too ? Are assumptions correct or am I wrong I hope ?

Thanks I hope you can address my concerns.
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Just how snail us your upload and the online back up service download?
Even with a YouTube usable up to 1440p/60 connection you can do 250GB per day transfer.
There is 86400 seconds in 24h, multiply that by your MB/s and you get how much you should be able to up/down per day.
At 30mb/s it would take 5 weeks 24/7 to transfer it all.

The easiest and cheapest may just be having a local duplication NAS.
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