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post #71 of 78
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Originally Posted by war4peace View Post

Well one thing is certain: the competition's waterblock looks a lot better.

Yeah indeed it does...lets see if this stirrrrs up things a lil at EK and have them get a new engineering design approach for AMD TR4 mono blocks.
post #72 of 78
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Originally Posted by EK_tiborrr View Post

Chips are packed in flp-chip arrangement, thus exposing hot side towards the heatsink. Long gone are the days of PGA where chips were designed to dump heat through the connector/socket pins.

Hence there's no need to cool the backside of the CPU socket. Same goes for GPU.

Dear tiborr

Unfortunately the CPU socket bracket and the back plate reach over 80C temps, on the the Zenith MB with 4.0 overclock ran by a famous Youtuber reviewer with the AIO provided from AMD TR Launch ES BOX, so that needs to be taken into consideration regardless,of what the final CPU temps will be on a new EK block for TR4, because those temperatures DO NOT help the socket itself to live long and perform properly without decaying in time so theoretically cooling the socket backplate would definitely lower temps by 10c easily as it was shown that by using fans on the socket itself , that is precisely what happened.

Now I am not a cold plate engineer, so I ave no idea if the cold plate of a block was way bigger than the IHS surface if that would be solve this particular issue, it would be up to You guys at EK to test this and eventually delight us one day, something We all would love here.
Also it has been officially declared at AMD that TR is heat sensitive, so the cooler You will get it to run the faster it will clock, and the same is for EPYC, in case ASUS and Gygabite will release a 6 gpu HEDT/WS single dual socket WS MB like they did for the x99 xeon.

p.s. mind that You will likely see demand for cooling 32 cores soon EPYC or TD
Edited by Aby67 - 9/7/17 at 10:38am
post #73 of 78
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Originally Posted by EK_tiborrr View Post

Chips are packed in flp-chip arrangement, thus exposing hot side towards the heatsink. Long gone are the days of PGA where chips were designed to dump heat through the connector/socket pins.

Hence there's no need to cool the backside of the CPU socket. Same goes for GPU.

I bought the TR4 block because I needed a block. I have so much EK gear that it's even hard for me to put something Not Ek in my loop and have it not stick out like a sore thumb. Not a fan of the fittings you guys make as they gave me the most problems out of all the other brands (yet I have a ton of your fittings lol go figure). I actually bought 2 of your tr4 blocks as I needed two and I couldn't wait. The block is working but I have a feeling it can do better than it is. I can't prove it until I get another TR block like the xspc that's coming. However, I have to say a few things about this block. I've been looking at the same old supremacy look in my pc for years now. Infact, I own 4 supremacy blocks (mix bag of evo, mx, and assorted tops etc) before these two. Now i have 5. When I first found out EK was doing something for TR I was extremely excited and then I saw the product an evo that looked identical to every other one I have but now with some huge mounting plate chin. Such a bare minimum effort from a visual perspective. You've gotten my money already for your tr blocks but as a long time customer I didn't buy your product because I liked it but because I had no other alternative at the time being and so did many others. I am looking forward to the zenith monoblock from you guys and I really hope it's not just like the x299 blocks you have out and I end up with the same small cold plate for the cpu that I have now with the tr block, but I fear that it may just well be. Give me something that I feel good about spending my money on.
post #74 of 78
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Originally Posted by nycgtr View Post

I bought the TR4 block because I needed a block. I have so much EK gear that it's even hard for me to put something Not Ek in my loop and have it not stick out like a sore thumb. Not a fan of the fittings you guys make as they gave me the most problems out of all the other brands (yet I have a ton of your fittings lol go figure). I actually bought 2 of your tr4 blocks as I needed two and I couldn't wait. The block is working but I have a feeling it can do better than it is. I can't prove it until I get another TR block like the xspc that's coming. However, I have to say a few things about this block. I've been looking at the same old supremacy look in my pc for years now. Infact, I own 4 supremacy blocks (mix bag of evo, mx, and assorted tops etc) before these two. Now i have 5. When I first found out EK was doing something for TR I was extremely excited and then I saw the product an evo that looked identical to every other one I have but now with some huge mounting plate chin. Such a bare minimum effort from a visual perspective. You've gotten my money already for your tr blocks but as a long time customer I didn't buy your product because I liked it but because I had no other alternative at the time being and so did many others. I am looking forward to the zenith monoblock from you guys and I really hope it's not just like the x299 blocks you have out and I end up with the same small cold plate for the cpu that I have now with the tr block, but I fear that it may just well be. Give me something that I feel good about spending my money on.

I didnt want to mention aesthetics, but Im with You 100% on this one...same here with the launch of a CPU that changed the whole computing environment from what it used to be in the beginning until today and likely for at least the next 3 4 years, I would have like You expected a whole new BLOCK design and big time quality and engineering step up, to celebrate this event...and Let me add something on top....the last thing as an Intel user that will soon switch to AMD that I want to see is a even remotely Intel looking water block these mother boards, even if it cost me much more. as long as it will keep temperatures below 60C when OC as it ought.
I just hope that it will lt not come down to fancy LED again, instead of upgraded engineering and manufacturing, I dont think anyone here invests these chips to have a computer look like an 80s discotheque.
Edited by Aby67 - 9/7/17 at 11:31am
post #75 of 78
Hey guys,

I am new to building custom loops.. Would it affect cooling performance if I swap Inlet and Outlet port (turning the block upside-down by 180°)?
post #76 of 78
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Originally Posted by sirtechalot View Post

Hey guys,

I am new to building custom loops.. Would it affect cooling performance if I swap Inlet and Outlet port (turning the block upside-down by 180°)?

In the case of the EK WB it wouldnt, as this block is not really a dedicated engineered Water Block for this kind of CPU and its cooling dissipation basically is done via the slightly increased cold plate size.
So once the temperatures will stabilize inside the loop teh excessive heat that the cold plate and the fins cannot transfer to the loop will spread to the mounting screws and gradually spread along the metal parts of the socket and the backplate reaching temps of around 85 C and more if even a more restricted case design.
In the case of teh XSPC block instead ( I tell You in case You thought to switch to that), yes the cold plate is perfect and yes the fins do cover even the whole IHS as it ought to be, but unfortunately those fins are not tall and sit very low as the same design of intel chips as a result the dissipation of heat is also not fast enough and temps will sit in the 70 75C, with better tempts on the socket cpu bracket and backplate......When You have a chance, keep an Eye on dedicated TR4 waterblocks and look for blocks with very tall fins...Phantecks makes one( i really dont like teh design, but even if there has not been any review about it yet, I suspect tat YOu should get temperatures of 15 20 c lower than the EK one as the fins are around 6 times taller, and the top tank apparently looks like it can keep bigger volumes of water

in any case order a thermal paste called thermal grizzly kryonaut, which will definitely keep Your temps at least 5 c lower and up to 15 C with a good water block, when you apply any thermal paste for this CPU , You can basically apply it even on the water block plate itself like with a credit card and then put the block on the socket, dont use small chips methods like lines or dots as they warrant that a big part of the coldplate surface will not dissipate actively
post #77 of 78
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Originally Posted by SkiTusk View Post

I just received my EVO Supremacy Threadripper block and have installed it-- Wondering what kind of overclocks and temps people are getting.

My System is :

Asus Zenith Extreem
1920x Threadripper
64gb 3200mhz gskil ram
2x evga 1080ti w/ ek waterblocks
ek DDC pump
2x EK 480mm/60mm radiators w/ vardar 3000 rpm fans push/pull

Idle on the CPU at stock is around 35 C and under Aida 64 cpu/fpu/cache stress test temps are around 58-60C.

Highest stable overclock i can find is 4.1 ghz at 1.3875 v. This causes temps under the stress test to be high 70s, sometimes hitting 80C.

Trying 1.4v at 4.2 ghz causes temps to spike and the system to crash.

My ambient temps are kind of high though, around 80F.

The AIO I had previously was about 10C worse overall at stock.

Any other experiences with this so far?


​My setup consists of Dual Predator 360's and 360Rad cooling my 1950X and Dual FuryX's.  Currently running Threadripper at 3.9GHz with Vcore Normal +.200mv offset.  Vsoc and SB voltage at 1.2v. See picture below for temps after 1hr of Titanfall 2. I am looking at getting the CPU onto its own loop, so as to keep the GPU a little cooler




Edited by ht_addict - 9/23/17 at 5:29pm
post #78 of 78
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Originally Posted by Aby67 View Post

Dear tiborr

Unfortunately the CPU socket bracket and the back plate reach over 80C temps, on the the Zenith MB with 4.0 overclock ran by a famous Youtuber reviewer with the AIO provided from AMD TR Launch ES BOX, so that needs to be taken into consideration regardless,of what the final CPU temps will be on a new EK block for TR4, because those temperatures DO NOT help the socket itself to live long and perform properly without decaying in time so theoretically cooling the socket backplate would definitely lower temps by 10c easily as it was shown that by using fans on the socket itself , that is precisely what happened.

Now I am not a cold plate engineer, so I ave no idea if the cold plate of a block was way bigger than the IHS surface if that would be solve this particular issue, it would be up to You guys at EK to test this and eventually delight us one day, something We all would love here.
Also it has been officially declared at AMD that TR is heat sensitive, so the cooler You will get it to run the faster it will clock, and the same is for EPYC, in case ASUS and Gygabite will release a 6 gpu HEDT/WS single dual socket WS MB like they did for the x99 xeon.

p.s. mind that You will likely see demand for cooling 32 cores soon EPYC or TD

wow that's a worry for that board my temps are 30 degrees at the back.
and as for the block itself not ideal should be bigger but hey when the other companies drag their asses you need something that works.

please consider this.
the only time the thing overheated as 4.1 at 1.4 prime 95 small ffts... and i screwed up the loop i have since sorted it mostly and will test soon.
this is with one 420 rad and 3 fans at 1300 rpm.

so yeah




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