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EK is announcing dedicated AMD® Threadripper Supremacy EVO water blocks

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EK is announcing dedicated AMD® Threadripper Supremacy EVO water blocks

EK Water Blocks, the Slovenia-based premium computer liquid cooling gear manufacturer sets an example once again, by announcing a dedicated EK-Supremacy EVO water block that covers the entire IHS of the newly released HEDT AMD® Ryzen Threadripper processor.



With AMD® releasing their new X399 chipset based HEDT processors, came the need for a water block with a larger cold plate contact surface. The primary goal in designing the new EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition water block was to cover the entire IHS of the newly released HEDT AMD® Ryzen Threadripper processor. With a dense micro-fin structure that counts 52 grooves with a spacing of 0.25mm apart, the EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition water block offers the best possible cooling performance! The water block uses award-winning EK-Supremacy EVO cooling engine with specialized jet insert and jet plate combination to ensure best possible cooling for X399 chipset based CPUs.



Today, we are announcing three versions of the EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition water block to be available at launch:
  • EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition - Nickel
  • EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition - Acetal + Nickel
  • EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition - Full Nickel
Every EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition water block comes with a precisely machined copper base (sometimes referred to as 'cold plate') which is made from purest copper available on the market and is treated with nickel electroplating and further polished to absolute mirror finish. The top is made from CNC machined POM Acetal, acrylic glass or nickel-plated brass (depending on the variant). To ensure the optimal flow, the insert is pre-installed and made from injection molded ABS polymer.

All mentioned water blocks are enclosed with a small tube of high-performance Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut thermal grease. It's suitable for high demanding users and for overclocking due to its excellent thermal conductivity. The thermal grease consists of a silicon-free structure, this makes it very light and highly flexible and easy to apply. It's recommended that users follow the EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition water block installation manual for the suggested method of thermal grease application for the best-expected results.



The base plate is covering 100% of the of the AMD® Ryzen Threadripper processors Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS). The Supremacy EVO cooling engine implemented into the water block and the orientation of the fins are the key to high-performance cooling. The fins are oriented so that the coolant is pushed up and down, towards the CPU dies underneath the IHS.



EK-Supremacy EVO Treadripper Edition - Nickel (left); Acetal+Nickel (center) and Full Nickel (right).

EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper comes with a pre-assembled error-preventing mounting mechanism that is installed directly onto the SocketTR4 mounting holes. The result is a perfect installation which results in optimal performance every time. This also means the water block is out of the box compatible with AMD's server type Socket SP3 motherboards. With such a mounting solution, the user does not need to remove the motherboard from the case and so has a hassle free installation procedure of the new CPU. You can always check for compatibility for the EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper water blocks by using EK Cooling Configurator database where compatible motherboards are being added to the list on a daily basis:

http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/

EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper water blocks are made in Slovenia and are available for pre-order through EK Webshop and Partner Reseller Network. All pre-orders will start shipping Thursday, 18th of August 2017! In the table below you can find MSR prices with VAT included.

  • EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition - Nickel 67.95€
  • EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition - Acetal+Nickel 67.95€
  • EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition - Full Nickel 86.95€
 
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well,... why not to make it as big as socket?
 
#3 ·
So... standard waterblocks on larger cold plate. I'm a bit disappointed.
I would have preferred a more expensive but fully redesigned waterblock. These ones as they are look ugly because of that gap. They look like an amateur modded a standard block in their garage.

This time I guess I'll have to wait and see what are competitors releasing.
 
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I'd rather have a great looking block with an uninteresting TIM than the other way around.
 
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Originally Posted by war4peace View Post

I'd rather have a great looking block with an uninteresting TIM than the other way around.
Very true....the habit of pushing old hardware to fit newer stuff instead of re-engineering the block makes sense from a business standpoint to push the product out quickly but it forces customers to start looking elsewhere who are sick of the same old design. I hope this is just an interim solution while they come up with something new. The problem is with the wording in their post it seems as though this is their new re-engineered. I'm wondering if more thought and effort is going into their mono-blocks instead.
 
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Originally Posted by akira749 View Post

The cold plate covers all the IHS
what about a larger contact area for the heat-transfer to water? even if a large part of the contact area is already outside the IHS direct surface area.
imho the copper block would act as a secondary heat-spreader, so even if the copper block is bigger than the CPU IHS the copper will pull the heat and distribute it further.
 
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I have to agree that I was disappointed to see a standard Supremacy block on just a larger cold plate. Was really hoping for better micro fin coverage.

It might work ok with a soldered IHS, but if I'm going through the trouble and expense of a custom loop, I want more than just ok.

Will the monoblocks also use the unmodified "Supremacy engine"?
 
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Originally Posted by Urtie View Post

I have to agree that I was disappointed to see a standard Supremacy block on just a larger cold plate. Was really hoping for better micro fin coverage.

It might work ok with a soldered IHS, but if I'm going through the trouble and expense of a custom loop, I want more than just ok.

Will the monoblocks also use the unmodified "Supremacy engine"?
With a dense micro-fin structure that counts 52 grooves with a spacing of 0.25mm apart, the EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition water block offers the best possible cooling performance! The water block uses award-winning EK-Supremacy EVO cooling engine with specialized jet insert and jet plate combination to ensure best possible cooling for X399 chipset based CPUs.

Is it the exact same as say the x99? Having the same base engine doesn't mean the didn't optimize it although it could just be language for "we didn't change a thing" lol
 
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Originally Posted by Ashcroft View Post

Having the same cooling engine design as Supremacy Evo does not mean it's simply the same block plonked onto a larger base. From the look of it I doubt there is a single part that is able to swap between versions.

Why change a successful design.
Successful on a far smaller die. Threadripper has a substantially larger effective die area to cool:



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Originally Posted by DanS79 View Post

Apparently if it isnt 100% new, it must be crap.
That's just a sarcastic straw man. People didn't complain when EK said the old Supremacy was fine for 2066, even though the monoblocks are sold with the argument that they have been redesigned to make better contact with the IHS, making the CPU blocks worse than the monoblocks according to their marketing:



The monoblocks were simply an improvement, and it wouldn't have made sense to complicate their lineup with another CPU block. That was fine.

As evident by the fact that they did have to release a new block for Threadripper, the argument is that they should have done more than only increasing the size of the cold plate. Not that it must be new on principle.
 
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Originally Posted by Urtie View Post

Successful on a far smaller die. Threadripper has a substantially larger effective die area to cool:

Yeah, but that is a different cooler. EK has said the base covers the entire IHS.



Like all chips the IHS is significantly larger than the core.



The new baseplate includes a larger actively cooled, finned area and jet plate that looks to cover the whole of the cores.

The fact is that there has not been substantial change in water block design in a while. All of them are very similar.
 
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Originally Posted by Ashcroft View Post

Like all chips the IHS is significantly larger than the core.
Yeah, but Threadripper has four of them, and they're spread out.

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Originally Posted by Ashcroft View Post



The new baseplate includes a larger actively cooled, finned area and jet plate that looks to cover the whole of the cores.
I have not seen that image before. It looks like they packed the dies far closer together in the illustration than they are in reality.

If they have indeed increased fin area from the original Supremacy, I'll take it all back and apologize. I don't think so though. The product page says:

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The water block uses award-winning EK-Supremacy EVO cooling engine with specialized jet insert and jet plate combination to ensure best possible cooling for X399 chipset based CPUs.
From what I can tell, the fin area is identical to former Supremacy blocks, and that is my entire complaint. That simply isn't "best possible cooling".
 
#24 ·
The cold plate dimensions are more than enough to cover the dies, it really comes down to the fin area. I don't doubt that the block will cool threadripper just fine.

My disappointment was from the aesthetic side of things. Square (or nearly square) processors look fine with a square waterblock, this thing looks like a little waterblock with a big ol bracket. It looks too much like a square versions of the round aio's with the included bracket.

I guess to me it looks like something that was cobbled together from spare parts.
 
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Originally Posted by Urtie View Post

I have not seen that image before. It looks like they packed the dies far closer together in the illustration than they are in reality.
That's actually the jetplate that they show, not the dies, just looks that way in the tiny image. Here's a better one:



But it doesn't look like the changed the fins at all compared to the original Supremacy EVO. Probably fine but could've been better, just looks like a cost saving measure to me.
 
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