What's up everyone! It's been a while since I've posted on the forums, but I'm at a point (again) where I'm stuck on what I should get. The motherboard housing my AMD Rana 445 X3 has finally quit on me. I passed on getting an FX series CPU because I was waiting (for almost 6 months...) for Ryzen, and I'm glad I did. I already have the following that I will transfer to the updated build:
1.) CM Storm Scout case
2.) OCZ Bronze 80+ 650 PSU (modular)
3.) EVGA 980 Ti SC
4.) Asus DVD Burner
5.) XIGMATEK Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition CPU Cooler (Note: I'm hoping that'll work. Many of the Ryzen CPU's have the same TDP, if not less, as the Rana. Also, the CPU cooler tabs I've seen on the AM4 boards look similar to the CPU tabs on my AM3+ board.)
I recently purchased some of Patriot's 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM. It has a clock speed of 2133 Mhz and the model is PSD48G2133K. I got it because it was inexpensive ($68) and was made from black PCB board. Simple reasons but that's the truth. I also plan to get TP-Links Archer T9E wifi card as well. I'd rather hardwire my rig, but that's not possible at this time. I also bought Comcast's 1Gb plan too. Didn't really have a choice in that either. The complex where I live doesn't have FIOS and won't be getting it anytime soon either.
As far as the motherboard goes, I really like ASRock's AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX Board. It's cheap, has great reviews and seems relatively easy to work with. My biggest issue right now is which Ryzen CPU to go with. I plan to buy my stuff from the local Micro Center and they have some really good discount on CPU's and motherboards right now. For example, if I get this motherboard with either Ryzen 3 (1200 or 1300X), I'm under $200! Can I afford an R5 1600 right now, yessir, but I keep wondering if I really need it. Later on down the line, I'd really like to upgrade to an R7 series CPU, but not sure right now. I really need something for gaming and entertainment sooner than later. Realistically, with the GPU that I have, can the Ryzen 3 family do me justice? I'm thinking yes since I'm upgrading from a Rana.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, but I really need help on this. Thanks, tons in advance guys and gals. I look forward to your replies.
edit: the original post when it was first posted was 72 point size font, so there were literally 7 words on the screen at a time. It's been long corrected since to the ~14 point size it is now (which is fine), even before ozlay (post #4) was made . Stop PMing me all the hate. If it bothers you so much, you can ask an admin what the edit history was of the first post.
Ryzen 5 1500X is the lowest I would go. The Ryzen 5 1400 has a worse cooler and less overclocking across the board.
Ryzen 5 1600 overclocked if you can swing the money since it has 6 true cores
---> Ryzen 5 1600X (you need a CPU cooler that works with AM4), depending on your choice of overclocking or not...
Asus X370 Prime Pro at about $120
Which Microcenter is near you? The Microcenter near me actually has openbox $160 ASUS Crosshair VI Hero motherboards (price dropped from the original openbox $190 price) while some other stores have $160 Asrock X370 Taichi boards ... if yours has similar boards that are openbox I would have a tech to open the box and check the stuff before buying it. You might get a good deal.
I wouldn't recommend cheaping out on the motherboard if you decide to upgrade to Ryzen 7 in the future. The lowest I'd go with a hexcore is a $100 MSI B350 Pro Carbon , but the $120 ASUS X370 Prime Pro is just a better value.
I would go with a 1400 if you can fit it into your budget as it has 4c/8t were as the 1300x and 1200 have 4c/4t the extra 4 threads will help out a lot. But other then that i think your board choice is a good one. However you will need a cpu cooler that is compatible with AM4 XIGMATEK doesn't make am4 mounting kits yet.
If you can find the ASUS Crosshair VI Hero for a good price it has AM3 mounting holes so you could use your XIGMATEK on it. however if costs too much more for that board it might be cheaper to buy a board and a new cooler.
What is your local microcenter maybe we can recommend you a combo?
Ryzen 5 1500X is the lowest I would go. The Ryzen 5 1400 has a worse cooler and less overclocking across the board.
Ryzen 5 1600 overclocked if you can swing the money since it has 6 true cores
---> Ryzen 5 1600X (you need a CPU cooler that works with AM4), depending on your choice of overclocking or not...
Asus X370 Prime Pro at about $120
Which Microcenter is near you? The Microcenter near me actually has openbox $160 ASUS Crosshair VI Hero motherboards (price dropped from the original openbox $190 price) while some other stores have $160 Asrock X370 Taichi boards ... if yours has similar boards that are openbox I would have a tech to open the box and check the stuff before buying it. You might get a good deal.
I wouldn't recommend cheaping out on the motherboard if you decide to upgrade to Ryzen 7 in the future. The lowest I'd go with a hexcore is a $100 MSI B350 Pro Carbon , but the $120 ASUS X370 Prime Pro is just a better value.
I wish that were the case kd5151, but my current budget will not allow me to go past the R5 1600 at this point and time. I need something reasonable now, then I'll upgrade to the R7 series later.
Quad cores are becoming obsolete these days. The 6 cores are solid while the 8 cores are a bit of overkill unless you are doing a lot of multitasking. The R5 1600 also comes with a nice cooler.
Any modern quadcore would be a tremendous upgrade over your current chip. While not ideal as the 6 core chips members have recommended, it fits your budget. The am4 socket will last a few years and if you're due for another upgrade, you'll just have to swap out a chip instead of buying an entire new rig.
Thats how big it was. the post was very long vertically because you could only fit in 1-3 words per line.
You can choose to believe me or not. Post edit history is not open for public view, only admins can see it, and I didn't take a screenshot at the time (because why would I?). We can agree to disagree, but fact of the matter is you weren't there when the post was first made, so you don't know for certain what it was. All I can say that the post was edited (look at the bottom of it) once the mistake was realized and now it's fixed. End of story. Now move along please.
Thats how big it was. the post was very long vertically because you could only fit in 1-3 words per line.
You can choose to believe me or not. Post edit history is not open for public view, only admins can see it, and I didn't take a screenshot at the time (because why would I?). We can agree to disagree, but fact of the matter is you weren't there when the post was first made, so you don't know for certain what it was. All I can say that the post was edited (look at the bottom of it) once the mistake was realized and now it's fixed. End of story. Now move along please.
I'd say stay out of Ryzen 3 territory if you have a 980ti, it's just too much of a bottleneck imo. My 2 cents would be a mix of AlphaC's advice. Going for the ASUS Prime X370 would be great with a 1500X (I've worked with a 1400 in a friend's build, I would say the 1500 is worth the upgrade) or 1600. 1500X would be easier on budget. The biggest thing would be that you could upgrade to a Ryzen 7 when zen2 or beyond comes out since this socket is good till at least 2020. Sorry I'm so late to the party!
I'd say stay out of Ryzen 3 territory if you have a 980ti, it's just too much of a bottleneck imo. My 2 cents would be a mix of AlphaC's advice. Going for the ASUS Prime X370 would be great with a 1500X (I've worked with a 1400 in a friend's build, I would say the 1500 is worth the upgrade) or 1600. 1500X would be easier on budget. The biggest thing would be that you could upgrade to a Ryzen 7 when zen2 or beyond comes out since this socket is good till at least 2020. Sorry I'm so late to the party!
True, but Techspot's review of the Ryzen 3's still recommended pushing for a Ryzen 5 4 core or 6 core (esp. 6 core) despite the slight performance gap. It's a better value overall. Personal experience on my part is what would prevent me from saying 1400 or 1500X. I feel the extra cache and better binning would be worth the price premium. At the end of the day, the point of my opinion is that with this platform it's wiser to invest in a slightly better motherboard that will last you longer, especially if the thought is to upgrade to an 8 core down the line (though I'd say if you want to do that hold out for Zen2).
Anecdotal experience on my part as well errs my recommendations away from entry level parts as often as I can spare. I've had too much buyers remorse from pinching a few pennies I could have spared originally. Ergo, I still stand by the 1500X recommendation as the chip to get if you don't go for a 1600.
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