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He got a cheap EK block. Not Bykski.
The top EK X370 is probably the best performing X370 product, as most of their blocks are.

The EK X399 block is essentially an X299 rebrand, and even their monoblock seems to be the same. It's totally unsuitable for TR4 as the coldplate and cooling channels are nowhere near big enough.

So what would you recommend? Get a Enermax Liqtech TR4 360 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler instead? I mean if is not going to work for what I want it for which is cooler temps with lower fan noise level. I need to do that because I do recording and don't want the sound of loud fans being picked up via my condenser mic. The Noctua cooler is nice but once I did a test rendering Blender it seems the temps were going a bit to high for my like. I manage to make it so the temps are lower but now the front fans are to loud. lol
     
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So what would you recommend? Get a Enermax Liqtech TR4 360 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler instead? I mean if is not going to work for what I want it for which is cooler temps with lower fan noise level. I need to do that because I do recording and don't want the sound of loud fans being picked up via my condenser mic. The Noctua cooler is nice but once I did a test rendering Blender it seems the temps were going a bit to high for my like. I manage to make it so the temps are lower but now the front fans are to loud. lol

If your gonna do a custom loop get the xspc, elsewise just get the enermax. I dont think the enermax performs worse than the EK tr tbh.
post #1833 of 2815
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Originally Posted by pmc25 View Post


He got a cheap EK block. Not Bykski.
The top EK X370 is probably the best performing X370 product, as most of their blocks are.

The EK X399 block is essentially an X299 rebrand, and even their monoblock seems to be the same. It's totally unsuitable for TR4 as the coldplate and cooling channels are nowhere near big enough.

I have the EK block, the XSPC block and I bought the monoblock. From the pictures the monoblock plate looks bigger but I won't know till I get it. I expect it to perform better than the regular tr4 based off my assumptions but I would not expect it to outdo the xspc block. Only time will tell.
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If your gonna do a custom loop get the xspc, elsewise just get the enermax. I dont think the enermax performs worse than the EK tr tbh.

What kind of warranty does Enermax has if their cooler break and leaks all over my hardware? Is why I stay away from aio. Lol
     
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What kind of warranty does Enermax has if their cooler break and leaks all over my hardware? Is why I stay away from aio. Lol

Never owned anything from enermax. I can't say bad or good.
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If your gonna do a custom loop get the xspc, elsewise just get the enermax. I dont think the enermax performs worse than the EK tr tbh.

What kind of warranty does Enermax has if their cooler break and leaks all over my hardware? Is why I stay away from aio. Lol

 I have got one on order, I have mainly used Corsair AIO and never had any leak problems, obviously touch wood I wont have any leak issues with the Enermax but im confident it should be fine.

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 I have got one on order, I have mainly used Corsair AIO and never had any leak problems, obviously touch wood I wont have any leak issues with the Enermax but im confident it should be fine.

Oh i see, nice. I like the idea of something simple, straight forward and don't have to worry so much about it. However; seeing post online about people with aio on Corsair and destroying their system plus taking forever to RMA and get stuff replace. It just made it so that I can't road that direction even if I wanted to. At least if it breaks on a custom loop, it was my fault and no one else. lol biggrin.gif However when I started building loops I felt comfortable working on them that I knew what to check for and such. This is why I jumped on the opportunity to grab that block asap but it will still cost me a bit more over getting an AIO. lol
     
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 I have got one on order, I have mainly used Corsair AIO and never had any leak problems, obviously touch wood I wont have any leak issues with the Enermax but im confident it should be fine.

Oh i see, nice. I like the idea of something simple, straight forward and don't have to worry so much about it. However; seeing post online about people with aio on Corsair and destroying their system plus taking forever to RMA and get stuff replace. It just made it so that I can't road that direction even if I wanted to. At least if it breaks on a custom loop, it was my fault and no one else. lol biggrin.gif However when I started building loops I felt comfortable working on them that I knew what to check for and such. This is why I jumped on the opportunity to grab that block asap but it will still cost me a bit more over getting an AIO. lol

 

I certainly understand why some prefer custom loops withe regards to customisation and sometimes better performance, thought I think there is just as much chance as a custom loop springing a leak as an AIO. I feel the risk is potentially the same. I have done custom loops in the past but in all honesty I no longer wanted the hassle nor the maintenance responsibility, call it lazy but I just prefer the ease of AIO coolers these days and as long as you are using decent fans for your RAD and an appropriate TIM, it should perform well.

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I certainly understand why some prefer custom loops withe regards to customisation and sometimes better performance, thought I think there is just as much chance as a custom loop springing a leak as an AIO. I feel the risk is potentially the same. I have done custom loops in the past but in all honesty I no longer wanted the hassle nor the maintenance responsibility, call it lazy but I just prefer the ease of AIO coolers these days and as long as you are using decent fans for your RAD and an appropriate TIM, it should perform well.

That makes sense, I would like to do that as long as I know if something happen that Enermax will take care of it. =P thumb.gif
     
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From what I've seen the liqtech aio outperforms the EK. It's only 2c off the XSPC from an article I read.

If we ignore the fact that they could only run 3.9 on liqtec vs 4.0 on xspc with there what appears to be crappy chip

Sure then it was only a few degrees.

Base mass helps counter transition.

Base mass is something aio lack. They also lack the ability to be forward compatible. They also lack the ability to add or replace pumps or series pumps.

Simply put they are made for a throwaway society. Something that real water cooling guys do not do.
Edited by chew* - 10/18/17 at 2:27pm
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