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post #1931 of 2404
TR Have problems with SLI, so even in games on 1440p SLI works worse than single GPU. On 6950X i have great scalling.

On TR 1950X, SLI scalling it decent (still not good) on 4k and above only. This CPU have poor IPC and it just "glued" Ryzens ;-)
post #1932 of 2404
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Originally Posted by amigafan2003 View Post

It is worse than one - that's 980ti level - I get 25576 with one 1080ti.

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/13512359

Have you installed the AMD Crimson ReLive drivers?

Yup, i'm at 23557 with a 1900x, I've not tried SLI yet, will do soon.
post #1933 of 2404
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https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13704641/fs/13792726

Ok, same CPU bottleneck like on my setup with TR

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13704641/fs/13792726

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13792726/fs/13918846

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13918846/fs/13704641

Above 100 fps worse GPU test compared 6950X vs TR 1950X

Thx for sharing your score. So, TR just perform like this frown.gif

I sell this platform and upgrade X99 ASUS Rampage Edition 10 + 6950X on X299 ASUS Rampage VI Extreme + i9 7960X soon. SLI performance and GPU scalling is very important to me. TR 1950X is great CPU for video editing etc. But unfortunnaly poor for gaming and SLI.
Edited by GosuPl - 10/22/17 at 5:05pm
post #1934 of 2404
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https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13704641/fs/13792726

Ok, same CPU bottleneck like on my setup with TR

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13704641/fs/13792726

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13792726/fs/13918846

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13918846/fs/13704641

Above 100 fps worse GPU test compared 6950X vs TR 1950X

Thx for sharing your score. So, TR just perform like this frown.gif

I sell this platform and upgrade X99 ASUS Rampage Edition 10 + 6950X on X299 ASUS Rampage VI Extreme + i9 7960X soon. SLI performance and GPU scalling is very important to me. TR 1950X is great CPU for video editing etc. But unfortunnaly poor for gaming and SLI.

yep at lower res with older games all the amds get a bit of a caning BUT they are not pathetic like in days of yore...well a few months ago smile.gif

and then there is updated games

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/2555506/spy/2525508
where the threadripper actually beats it in graphics score but of course not cpu score...and that's a 2k chip overclocked

so yeah swings and roundabouts.
I have zero idea why in the older lower res benches the scaling is so crap what makes that score funny is he is using a an enermax aio to grab 4222 on that threadripper...I,m dying to see what temps that was or the volts he needed smile.gif
post #1935 of 2404
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I swapped out my EK water block for the XSPC and...disappointing. My temps are much higher at the moment. With the EK block I hit around 72-74 max in Small FFTs. WIth the new block I'm quickly over 80. I'm still bleeding some small bubbles out, but I suspect I'm at 95% of the performance I'm going to get. Any input on how much improvement I might see from bleeding for a while or should I assume I mounted / applied TIM wrong?

dude...what cabin are you in we are in the same boat smile.gif well not exactly my temps are no where near as bad as yours BUT I am still trying to get rid of the bubbles...it has to be the block churning it up as I never had the issue with the EEEEK block.

to give you an idea this is after I THOUGHT I had it bled but the bubbles returned...hasn't affected it to much but still not as good as it could be.
oh that's at 4 gig by the way with 1.3 v I,ll run it again today and see how much it changed at 4.1 1.35 I was getting I think 72

also forgot I did the credit card swipe and dot BUT I am using kryonaut BUT I ran out so it is the worse paste job ever splotches everywhere so I do not think application is the biggest issue.




Edited by tarot - 10/22/17 at 6:57pm
post #1936 of 2404
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Originally Posted by GosuPl View Post

TR Have problems with SLI, so even in games on 1440p SLI works worse than single GPU. On 6950X i have great scalling.

On TR 1950X, SLI scalling it decent (still not good) on 4k and above only. This CPU have poor IPC and it just "glued" Ryzens ;-)
If you are testing in Futuremark products like Timespy or Firestrike it's that they don't utilise the ThreadRipper architecture properly so scaling in Timespy or Firestrike is epicly bad.

SLI works ok in games that support it however. If you want high Firestrike scores, grab an Intel 7960X and overclock the tits off it along with a good Vega64 or 1080Ti/Titan Xp (not saying the Vega is in the same ballpark...). As the 7960X will give awesome physics results in those tests compared to ThreadRipper due to poor optimisation for ThreadRipper.
    
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post #1937 of 2404
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If you are testing in Futuremark products like Timespy or Firestrike it's that they don't utilise the ThreadRipper architecture properly so scaling in Timespy or Firestrike is epicly bad.

SLI works ok in games that support it however. If you want high Firestrike scores, grab an Intel 7960X and overclock the tits off it along with a good Vega64 or 1080Ti/Titan Xp (not saying the Vega is in the same ballpark...). As the 7960X will give awesome physics results in those tests compared to ThreadRipper due to poor optimisation for ThreadRipper.

you need more data here is an older one I found and I do not see any major difference

https://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-threadripper-1950x-performance-preview?page=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZViADHbBch4

have a video vs an overclocked 7700k pretty much the be all end-all till the 8700k popped up.

I haven't looked at the video yet so yeah smile.gif I,ll be back

ok I,m back and I watched I have no idea if most of them are correct I know the cinebench ones are smile.gif so if anyone has a sli setup throw in the scores because if that s correct I do not see a problem
Edited by tarot - 10/22/17 at 8:38pm
post #1938 of 2404
So I been at home running some test on my system using AIDA64. So my temps are 29C idle up to 57C on Stability Test 20mins+ plus AVG Temp was 54C. Do you think with those kind of temps are really need water cooling? This is with a room at 72F. I have like 2 water cooling paths to take and trying to decide which route to take. Range of course for those are $200-300 just to cool the CPU and have anyways between 1x 360mm rad or 2x 240mm rads. biggrin.gif

Forgot to mention that Voltages Min: 0.720V / Max: 1.472V
Edited by ITAngel - 10/22/17 at 10:25pm
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post #1939 of 2404
Seeing Max Temps of 67c-68c and vcore of 1.38-1.392v at load. Is this sustainable long term? Temps are staying below amd's recommended specifications, but vcore is a touch higher than amd says is safe.
Edited by happyluckbox - 10/22/17 at 9:48pm
post #1940 of 2404
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dude...what cabin are you in we are in the same boat smile.gif well not exactly my temps are no where near as bad as yours BUT I am still trying to get rid of the bubbles...it has to be the block churning it up as I never had the issue with the EEEEK block.

to give you an idea this is after I THOUGHT I had it bled but the bubbles returned...hasn't affected it to much but still not as good as it could be.
oh that's at 4 gig by the way with 1.3 v I,ll run it again today and see how much it changed at 4.1 1.35 I was getting I think 72

also forgot I did the credit card swipe and dot BUT I am using kryonaut BUT I ran out so it is the worse paste job ever splotches everywhere so I do not think application is the biggest issue.




I tried three different remounts (and different TIMs) of the XSPC block and got the same temps. I switched back to the EK block today and my temps immediately decreased by 5 degrees idle and 10-20 degrees under load (depending on test). Nothing else changed in my custom loop at all. Guess I'm waiting for the Heatkiller block.
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