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post #1961 of 2404
Not my cpu installed atm so no.

Maybe mine I will.

I will be lapping the Phanteks however as I was asked to make sure its flat.
post #1962 of 2404
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I really should've lapped mine...

What is the temperature improvement like?

No clue yet its leak testing on a h320 x2 that has been freshly cleaned.

Should be substantial gains regardless.
post #1963 of 2404
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Well this came as no surprise. It was highly biased center and certainly was not full contact at dies when I started.

Pic below was about halfway mark.





Not a super mirror finish. Me personally i think super polished finish is counter productive. Need voids/small scratches.


well that is just crap smile.gif

the ek and the xspc to me felt pretty damn flat so I did not bother lapping for now...but since the ek is out I might as well give a go and see what's what.

how do you lap yours?
grits etc



I am also just testing this block at stock settings and as I thought it seems fine...sort of overkill really smile.gif


super quick prime 95 293 small ffts only 10 minutes so far but you get the point

post #1964 of 2404
I knew for a fact the byski was bad so 400 wet w/dish soap. Final was a quick run on 1500 wet w/dish soap.

Probably start with 800 on the phanteks to get an idea of where its at. Hard to tell looks flat.

A nice 1/4" or thicker glass top table helps ensure your lapping on a flat surface.
Edited by chew* - 10/23/17 at 5:07pm
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I knew for a fact the byski was bad so 400 wet w/dish soap. Final was a quick run on 1500 wet w/dish soap.

Probably start with 800 on the phanteks to get an idea of where its at. Hard to tell looks flat.

A nice 1/4" or thicker glass top table helps ensure your lapping on a flat surface.

cool thanks I,ll give that a whirl(pun intended) on the ek later.
post #1966 of 2404
I'll be up front and admit that I did not read this entire thread. If this topic has been covered at length, then that's my bad and I'll go backtrack and be more thorough in my search.

I read a comment or two in this thread about the EK Monoblock / CPU block combo for the Asus Zenith Extreme board not providing full coverage on the IHS. You can see in the image from EK's website that it does not.

I reached out to EK to see what they had to say about it, and this was the meat & potatoes of their response: "There is no need for the whole IHS to be covered by the water block, since the monoblock already covers the most crucial parts that need to be cooled. The monoblock was tested when applied to the TR4 chip, so there should be no fear of the monoblock not cooling the TR4 completely since it was also tested by our R&D guys and it worked perfectly."

I don't know what the conditions were when EK tested this product, but I know I'll be OC'ng the heck out of the chip and those comments about not needing full coverage to account for massive heat production sort of leaves me scratching my head.

I'm curious what you folks think about this.


Edited by djnsmith7 - 10/25/17 at 8:57am
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post #1967 of 2404
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I'll be up front and admit that I did not read this entire thread. If this topic has been covered at length, then that's my bad and I'll go backtrack and be more thorough in my search.

I read a comment or two in this thread about the EK Monoblock / CPU block combo for the Asus Zenith Extreme board not providing full coverage on the IHS. You can see in the image from EK's website that it does not.

I reached out to EK to see what they had to say about it, and this was the meat & potatoes of their response: "There is no need for the whole IHS to be covered by the water block, since the monoblock already covers the most crucial parts that need to be cooled. The monoblock was tested when applied to the TR4 chip, so there should be no fear of the monoblock not cooling the TR4 completely since it was also tested by our R&D guys and it worked perfectly."

I don't know what the conditions were when EK tested this product, but I know I'll be OC'ng the heck out of the chip (and plan to delid) and those comments about not needing full coverage to account for massive heat production sort of leaves me scratching my head.

I'm curious what you folks think about this.


I'm sure there's somewhat of a minimal difference between "almost fully covered" and fully covered, but it seems some other manufacturers don't quite agree.


That's what Watercool is doing. Left is their normal Heatkiller block, right is the TR4. They've done an abundance of testing, even ditching earlier designs due to them not fulfilling the performance goals.
TLDR wait for the Heatkiller results I'd say.
post #1968 of 2404
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(and plan to delid)
Now this I want to see.
post #1969 of 2404
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I know I'll be OC'ng the heck out of the chip (and plan to delid)

Why delid? The dies are soldered and Der8auer already delidded two as the first died in delidding...
    
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Sigh, so my rig is fully p95 stable at 1.35vcore, aida64stable, but no matter what I do, I cant get it stable in my solving software. Already incrrased vcore from 1.35 to 1.4 and the software still crashes. ***ffff
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