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User experience will pretty much tell you all you need to know. I am not the only one on here with both blocks. Infact I have more than1 of each and the temps don't lie. I swap the block and instantly I am no longer throttling or hitting the 80s in prime. There's nothing contradicting about that. The ek block is good for stock operation or a very mild oc, outside of that it's crap plain and simple. If I only had 1 Ek block then sure maybe blame a bad block, but I have 2 well had 2 since I sold one. Diff board, diff 1950x same results of a temp drop just by swapping the block. I have the monoblock on order and I am sure it will be not as good as the XSPC as well. If you had both blocks in your possession it would be hard to believe that they would offer similar performance.

I see were you are coming from with that, and would be interesting to see what the monoblock will provide as far as a comparison to the other 3 blocks. I guess with me I have no idea what kind of setup or OC level you are running so I can't compare my system with your. But maybe that level of cooling and performance makes more sense for those who already overclock to a higher degree.

Curious have you done a stock test between all of them, and a mid oc , finally a high oc to see how much those numbers fluctuate? I am simply curious about it if you have or not to kind of get an idea. Because of these coolers and such cost me so much I am pretty much broke to try get a second cooler to test. I need to get a GPU cooler next if I don't end up selling my Galax GTX 1070 Hall of Fame Edition. If I get to the point to buy a block for it from ebay then would be interesting how much the temps will change. Also note I am only going to run for now a single EK 360 PE rad until I can get a 240 rad to at to the front of the case. biggrin.gif
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post #1982 of 2350
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I see were you are coming from with that, and would be interesting to see what the monoblock will provide as far as a comparison to the other 3 blocks. I guess with me I have no idea what kind of setup or OC level you are running so I can't compare my system with your. But maybe that level of cooling and performance makes more sense for those who already overclock to a higher degree.

Curious have you done a stock test between all of them, and a mid oc , finally a high oc to see how much those numbers fluctuate? I am simply curious about it if you have or not to kind of get an idea. Because of these coolers and such cost me so much I am pretty much broke to try get a second cooler to test. I need to get a GPU cooler next if I don't end up selling my Galax GTX 1070 Hall of Fame Edition. If I get to the point to buy a block for it from ebay then would be interesting how much the temps will change. Also note I am only going to run for now a single EK 360 PE rad until I can get a 240 rad to at to the front of the case. biggrin.gif

I ran both stock and I had a max load of 58-60c, very marginal between the 2 blocks. After 1.3v the EK goes bye bye. As for the rest of the loop, at my time of testing both loops were EK revo top, d5, 250ML res, one loop with a 480 and one with a 360. However, the temp was the same. At first I refused to believe it was the block, I took it apart twice, remounted it 3 times, changed paste, and I went back to just distilled from nano coolant think maybe it was a bad mayhems batch or something.
post #1983 of 2350
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I ran both stock and I had a max load of 58-60c, very marginal between the 2 blocks. After 1.3v the EK goes bye bye. As for the rest of the loop, at my time of testing both loops were EK revo top, d5, 250ML res, one loop with a 480 and one with a 360. However, the temp was the same.

I see very interesting, and crazy because those temps I get with just my Noctua cooler if we are talking about the tDIE and not the other one. biggrin.gif Note I have not run p95 though, just AIDA64.
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post #1984 of 2350
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User experience will pretty much tell you all you need to know. I am not the only one on here with both blocks. Infact I have more than1 of each and the temps don't lie. I swap the block and instantly I am no longer throttling or hitting the 80s in prime. There's nothing contradicting about that. The ek block is good for stock operation or a very mild oc, outside of that it's crap plain and simple. If I only had 1 Ek block then sure maybe blame a bad block, but I have 2 well had 2 since I sold one. Diff board, diff 1950x same results of a temp drop just by swapping the block. I have the monoblock on order and I am sure it will be not as good as the XSPC as well. If you had both blocks in your possession it would be hard to believe that they would offer similar performance.


Thanks for the info. I too saw the monoblock from EK and was thinking about getting that.

What I really want is just the best performance, so right now I am leaning to the XSPC. I don't plan on overclocking it to the max but having that option would be nice. Maybe I'll wait and I"ll have more options. As of right now though I see more info and reviews for EK and that why I mentioned them.


And like I said this will be my first custom loop. So I would like to have a good foundation. I am only looking to water cool the CPU down the line I'll probably do the GPU.


Thanks all.
post #1985 of 2350
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Originally Posted by winkizuma View Post

I'm debating between EK and XSPC block for my 1950x. I've never watercooled before can anyone make a suggestion. I currently rocking a kraken x52 from my previous build...yea I know its not enough.


I've used the EK configurator to help me get started and pick out parts that I need. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Even the Bykski block beats the EK block. When I bought mine I thought it was a cheap stop gap until a full cover option, instead I had best in class performance (XSPC hadn't released yet). Get the XSPC, the EK isn't worth it.
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post #1986 of 2350
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Originally Posted by winkizuma View Post

Thanks for the info. I too saw the monoblock from EK and was thinking about getting that.

What I really want is just the best performance, so right now I am leaning to the XSPC. I don't plan on overclocking it to the max but having that option would be nice. Maybe I'll wait and I"ll have more options. As of right now though I see more info and reviews for EK and that why I mentioned them.


And like I said this will be my first custom loop. So I would like to have a good foundation. I am only looking to water cool the CPU down the line I'll probably do the GPU.


Thanks all.

Forget the EK config, it's a decent start but not as helpful as it appears to be.

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post #1987 of 2350
You know I believe you guys are right and there are better coolers out there for these monsters of a cpu. But for someone on a budget like me I am force to get what I can, specially when the price I get the items are within reasons. Wish I could do a high end custom build with only the best parts but that is not realistic for me. Since my Music takes a lot of money along with my computer hobbies. lol

To nycgtr thanks for share all that information. Is always useful to have these discussion with people who provide feedback and info back to those questioning. Not someone wanting to flame burn others. thumb.gif 1+
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post #1988 of 2350
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You know I believe you guys are right and there are better coolers out there for these monsters of a cpu. But for someone on a budget like me I am force to get what I can, specially when the price I get the items are within reasons. Wish I could do a high end custom build with only the best parts but that is not realistic for me. Since my Music takes a lot of money along with my computer hobbies. lol nycgtr thanks for share all that information. Is always useful to have these discussion with people who provide feedback and info back to those questioning. Not someone wanting to flame burn others. thumb.gif 1+

For the price you paid for the EK block it isn't bad, I paid the 80 plus ship on two of them so I ate the full trauma twice lol. The EK block is better than any AIO and imo would be similar to the enermax. It's just not as good as the competition for the money. The xspc is a 19 dollar difference retail to retail pricing but you also get rgb leds and a rgb led controller, the Ek just gives you a block. I can see that ek made some changes to the top as the holes are in different position, but honestly they could of sold an upgrade kit with the bigger cold plate and bracket and gotten the same results with the evo. I am sure someone else can test that at some point. I do have the reg supremacy evo block but I'm not tearing my loop down over and over lol.
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For the price you paid for the EK block it isn't bad, I paid the 80 plus ship on two of them so I ate the full trauma twice lol. The EK block is better than any AIO and imo would be similar to the enermax. It's just not as good as the competition for the money. The xspc is a 19 dollar difference retail to retail pricing but you also get rgb leds and a rgb led controller, the Ek just gives you a block. I can see that ek made some changes to the top as the holes are in different position, but honestly they could of sold an upgrade kit with the bigger cold plate and bracket and gotten the same results with the evo. I am sure someone else can test that at some point. I do have the reg supremacy evo block but I'm not tearing my loop down over and over lol.

I see, is the one I posted the new one with the changes or the old one? Here
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post #1990 of 2350
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I see, is the one I posted the new one with the changes or the old one? Here

I am talking about the TR block from EK. If you ever owned the regular supremacy evo for multiple sockets. You will notice the cooling engine is the same and the included jetplate with the TR block is essnetialy the same as one of the jetplates in the original supremacy kit. What they've done is rotate the default positing by 90 degrees, increased the cold plate BUT NOT the fin area as that's STILL the same as the regular supremacy. So the only thing that's changed is the length of the cold plate and default rotation and the mount bracket for the block. This is why I am saying if you took the mount bracket and the cold plate from the EK EVO TR and used it on the original evo supremacy it would result in the same performance.
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