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Need some advice on upgrade.... this will be replacing my current sig rig..

MSI B350 GAMING PRO CARBON
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB - F4-3200C16D-16GVGB
Ryzen 5 1600x

I will be keeping everything else in my sig rig

Any ideas on whether or not this will support the newer Zen 2 or 3 CPU's as you can probably tell from my Sig Rig I don't upgrade a lot so definitely want to make sure I do this right.. I do need the Optical audio jack.. and was wanting USB 3.1 Gen 2 for future proofing.. I dont SLI/X-fire so that is not important.. just looking to get best I can for my $$ I have a $250 budget (gift card) for Mother board and Ram.. so don't want to go to much above that.. Thoughts or suggestions greatly appreciated.
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Originally Posted by JackCY View Post

Get 1600 it's the same and comes with cooler for less $. Unless you don't want to OC and will use a custom cooler.
MSI boards take forever to boot, would not buy.
I will say this is true about the MSI boards. I have the X370 Gaming Pro Carbon and it does take a while to boot. It isn't something that has been an issue for me however.
 
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As far as I know, AMD has stated that the AM4 platform will be supported for the next 4 years. If that is the case, that motherboard should carry you through multiple upgrades if you so choose.
yes I am aware of that, I was more concerned of the stability of the board with the newer processors thats all, I have already seen where the recommendation is being made to go x370 if you are using the Ryzen 7 CPU's so that is why I was curious on whether or not my board would be ok with the newer CPU's should I decide to upgrade to them.
 
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yes I am aware of that, I was more concerned of the stability of the board with the newer processors thats all, I have already seen where the recommendation is being made to go x370 if you are using the Ryzen 7 CPU's so that is why I was curious on whether or not my board would be ok with the newer CPU's should I decide to upgrade to them.
Ah, I see, sorry for the misunderstanding. Unfortunately, any answer I would have as to that regard would be pure speculation on my part.
 
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Originally Posted by JackCY View Post

Get 1600 it's the same and comes with cooler for less $. Unless you don't want to OC and will use a custom cooler.
MSI boards take forever to boot, would not buy.
Not overly concerned with long boot times as my computer stays running 24/7 anyways.. Unfortunately due to how I am paying for parts the 1600X is the only one available.. or I would go with 1600... I will be using my current Hyper 212 Evo for cooling..
 
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Originally Posted by Shaitan View Post

Ah, I see, sorry for the misunderstanding. Unfortunately, any answer I would have as to that regard would be pure speculation on my part.
No worries... Yeah I figured it would be speculation but just want to make sure I get something that can carry me thru several upgrades that's all..
 
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Originally Posted by BlkDrgn28 View Post

Need some advice on upgrade.... this will be replacing my current sig rig..

MSI B350 GAMING PRO CARBON
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB - F4-3200C16D-16GVGB
Ryzen 5 1600x

I will be keeping everything else in my sig rig

Any ideas on whether or not this will support the newer Zen 2 or 3 CPU's as you can probably tell from my Sig Rig I don't upgrade a lot so definitely want to make sure I do this right.. I do need the Optical audio jack.. and was wanting USB 3.1 Gen 2 for future proofing.. I dont SLI/X-fire so that is not important.. just looking to get best I can for my $$ I have a $250 budget (gift card) for Mother board and Ram.. so don't want to go to much above that.. Thoughts or suggestions greatly appreciated.
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You should pick 3200C14 RAM.
 
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Originally Posted by Shaitan View Post

I will say this is true about the MSI boards. I have the X370 Gaming Pro Carbon and it does take a while to boot. It isn't something that has been an issue for me however.
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Originally Posted by Shaitan View Post

I will say this is true about the MSI boards. I have the X370 Gaming Pro Carbon and it does take a while to boot. It isn't something that has been an issue for me however.
Stay away from MSI, plenty of bugs in most of their stuff I got..
Get the Fatal1ty B350.
 
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Originally Posted by MadOver View Post

Stay away from MSI, plenty of bugs in most of their stuff I got..
Get the Fatal1ty B350.
Can't use that board as it doesn't have the Optical audio that I require...
 
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Well since there have been several replies already about issues with the MSI boards.. has anyone had any experience with this one yet?? ASRock Fatal1ty X370 GAMING X its my understanding that it is replacing the now EOL ASRock Fatal1ty X370 GAMING K4..
 
#13 ·
Having built computers for 25 years I'm strictly an Asus motherboard buyer, and for AMD I usually buy the best I can afford, mainly for BIOS and driver updates and support but that's just me. I myself splurged and went with a Crosshair VI extreme, but that's because I watercool and I like the watercooling support they have on they're new extreme motherboards. No only waiting for the EK/Bitspower monoblock's with the dedicated watercooling header.
 
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Originally Posted by Amhro View Post

You should pick 3200C14 RAM.
I agree with this. If you want to be sure that the RAM will actually run at 3200MHz, you should have a closer look at RAM. RAM support on Ryzen got a lot better with the latest AGESA (BIOS), but I'd still try to find out if a specific RAM kit (more so the chips on the kit) will run at it's advertised max speed on a specific motherboard, before I'd buy. Or maybe RAM speed is not that important to you and you're fine with 2666MHz or 2933MHz, which most 2x8GB kits will do on most motherboards with most BIOS versions.
 
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Originally Posted by f1LL View Post

I agree with this. If you want to be sure that the RAM will actually run at 3200MHz, you should have a closer look at RAM. RAM support on Ryzen got a lot better with the latest AGESA (BIOS), but I'd still try to find out if a specific RAM kit (more so the chips on the kit) will run at it's advertised max speed on a specific motherboard, before I'd buy. Or maybe RAM speed is not that important to you and you're fine with 2666MHz or 2933MHz, which most 2x8GB kits will do on most motherboards with most BIOS versions.
While Ram speed is important, what was more important was sticking as close to my $250 budget as I could.. while still maintaining a stable platform. What I finally decided on is the following..

ASRock Fatal1ty X370 GAMING X
G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB DDR4 2400
and then a R5 1600

This kept me close to my budget and should play well together, until DDR ram prices come down again then maybe I will look into 3200 ram again.. but for now this system should definitely be better then my current system.
 
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Originally Posted by BlkDrgn28 View Post

While Ram speed is important, what was more important was sticking as close to my $250 budget as I could.. while still maintaining a stable platform. What I finally decided on is the following..

ASRock Fatal1ty X370 GAMING X
G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB DDR4 2400
and then a R5 1600

This kept me close to my budget and should play well together, until DDR ram prices come down again then maybe I will look into 3200 ram again.. but for now this system should definitely be better then my current system.
Yeah, that will certainly be a good upgrade
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But I would rather get the RAM with the potential to run faster, since it costs the same: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231977

This way you have at least a chance to get 3200MHz. Either way it will most likely be able to run faster than 2400MHz.
 
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Originally Posted by f1LL View Post

Yeah, that will certainly be a good upgrade
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But I would rather get the RAM with the potential to run faster, since it costs the same: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231977

This way you have at least a chance to get 3200MHz. Either way it will most likely be able to run faster than 2400MHz.
I thought about that.. however the only 3200 Mhz ram that is on the QVL for this motherboard run closer to $180.. so I figured I can wait.. as a matter of fact this is THE only GSkill 3200 Mhz ram on the list
 
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Originally Posted by BlkDrgn28 View Post

I thought about that.. however the only 3200 Mhz ram that is on the QVL for this motherboard run closer to $180.. so I figured I can wait.. as a matter of fact this is THE only GSkill 3200 Mhz ram on the list
Hmm....I personally have never bought memory based on a QVL and always got lucky, so far. But I wouldn't advise anyone who wants to be on the safe side to do the same.

Maybe, if you don't mind dealing with that, you can just order a kit that is not on the QVL and send it back if it's trouble? Ryzen does benefit from memory speed after all.
 
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Originally Posted by JackCY View Post

Get 1600 it's the same and comes with cooler for less $. Unless you don't want to OC and will use a custom cooler.
MSI boards take forever to boot, would not buy.
i have the Tomahawk b350 and on bios that it came with out of the box, ya you could go eat breakfast waiting for it to boot
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but with each bios update its getting faster and faster, its not that bad now
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