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[Next Power Up] Microsoft To End Forced Windows Upgrades With Future Versions

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When Windows 10 was launched, users were mostly complaining about two things - privacy and forced upgrades. While Microsoft made some changes to data it acquires, not much has been done to forced upgrades. The good news is that Microsoft learned something from that and is now removing the forced upgrades.
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/37923/microsoft-to-end-forced-windows-upgrades-with-future-versions/

Interesting. Guess they are listening lol. Better late then never I always say.
 
#2 ·
I bet they will still force update, like if you haven't done it in months. Some people NEVER do them... Then complain windows is crap because of vulnerabilities. Yet new updates can be a pain at the wrong moment and if it is buggy.
 
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Whenever new operating system is released, files will no longer be downloaded unless users specifically agree with it.
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Also worth mentioning is that the feature will be limited to Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows 10 Pro for Workstations.
all that means is MS won't force/harass(?) D/Ling an update like they did 7/8.x to 10. and just on pro WS and enterprise.

i'll save my celebration.
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Originally Posted by looniam View Post

all that means is MS won't force/harass(?) D/Ling an update like they did 7/8.x to 10. and just on pro WS and enterprise.

i'll save my celebration.
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Harass? Might still be the case, with daily middle screen pop ups with "do you want to upgrade?".
They might stop pre-downloading and reinstalling automatically without consent when each time you update manually, automatic updates suddenly reactivated.
 
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Forced updates though, they should probably address that part.

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Originally Posted by Just a nickname View Post

I bet they will still force update, like if you haven't done it in months. Some people NEVER do them... Then complain windows is crap because of vulnerabilities. Yet new updates can be a pain at the wrong moment and if it is buggy.
Talk about a lose lose situation right?
 
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Originally Posted by sticks435 View Post

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Originally Posted by looniam View Post

all that means is MS won't force/harass(?) D/Ling an update like they did 7/8.x to 10. and just on pro WS and enterprise.

i'll save my celebration.
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That part was referring to the availability of ReFS, not of removing the forced updates pretty sure.
ah!
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i guess my disappointment is it doesn't seem to reflect the same options as i had in win7.

thanks for correcting my comprehension.
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This is the one thing the OS really needed to make it the best windows EVER.

IMO it has been the best Windows (hell general OS) ever made. But the lack of being able to turn off windows update was kinda a downer for me. But Disabling the windows update service does the same thing. Glad they are bring it back. To some extent atleast.

Now there really isn't a reason to stay on windows 7. Well unless you were one of those people that were rocking XP until windows 7 was already out for years as you hate change and push change as long as you can.

I just can't stand the lack of features that were added on after windows 7 that I use all the time.
 
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As annoying as they can be, overall I was more satisfied with forced updates on than off. It wasn't a problem for organizations since they use WSUS, and home users are most in need of being prodded into not being part of the problem.

More than anything though, I wish Microsoft would quit flailing around so unpredictably. Just pick something and stick with it already.
 
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Good the hear about ending the forced upgrades.

Deferred the Creators Update for as long as I could, then it ninja installed on me and screwed up my entire setup. Wouldn't have cared if it was my personal computer, but nope, had to be the one computer that could not possibly be offline for sometime for a clean install. Yup, you guessed it, my work computer. Entire company software, testing tools, and notes went poof. (thank goodness for daily/weekly backups)
 
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Originally Posted by xP_0nex View Post

Good the hear about ending the forced upgrades.

Deferred the Creators Update for as long as I could, then it ninja installed on me and screwed up my entire setup. Wouldn't have cared if it was my personal computer, but nope, had to be the one computer that could not possibly be offline for sometime for a clean install. Yup, you guessed it, my work computer. Entire company software, testing tools, and notes went poof. (thank goodness for daily/weekly backups)
This is more of a planning failure than anything. You knew how this works and chose to flirt with danger.
 
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Originally Posted by xP_0nex View Post

Good the hear about ending the forced upgrades.

Deferred the Creators Update for as long as I could, then it ninja installed on me and screwed up my entire setup. Wouldn't have cared if it was my personal computer, but nope, had to be the one computer that could not possibly be offline for sometime for a clean install. Yup, you guessed it, my work computer. Entire company software, testing tools, and notes went poof. (thank goodness for daily/weekly backups)
You didn't just redirect your Users folder (Favs, Docs, Downloads) to a network storage location becaaaauuuse...?

And why is company software only on your rig?

No one who respects the concept of five nines would do it that way to begin with.
 
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I wish MS would change how they do big updates.

Hate how it pretty much installs a new version of windows every big update.

It was one thing when it was a service pack every 2 years or so, but once every 6 months is kinda pushing it.

I hate it when my work laptop gets stuck in a 20-30min update process, when I tell it to reboot (helps keep autocad from acting werid). Or when I leave my Work Laptop sleeping (which I normally do 99% of the time vs shutting down) with work open, just to come back the next day to everything being closed out as the machine deiced to come out of sleep and update. This for one needs to stop. Honestly have no idea why I don't disable updates on my work laptop, like I do with my Desktop.
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I think some of you are confusing updates with upgrades. They're most likely still going to force feed you updates like security patches and whatnot, but upgrades like the Creators Update (ie major OS overhaul - Service Pack-esque) will not be forced. It could be better, but hey it's a start.
 
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Originally Posted by KyadCK View Post

You didn't just redirect your Users folder (Favs, Docs, Downloads) to a network storage location becaaaauuuse...?

And why is company software only on your rig?

No one who respects the concept of five nines would do it that way to begin with.
I am no expert at anything relating to proper admin stuff, just a grunt/average computer user. I was just stating that because it was my software QA rig the Creators Upgrade being forced came at the worse time since deadlines were coming up. I could have dealt with the forced upgrade, but it corrupted some system files while it was doing its thing. So I wasted a work day trying to get it back up to where it was before the upgrade.

So not being forced to upgrade till 100% ready is appreciated, that's all.
 
#24 ·
I like the irony of the article's sequence of paragraphs:

1. Microsoft will no longer force Operating System upgrades;
2. But just before that kicks in with the Fall Creators Upgrade, Microsoft, in that same upgrade, will remove the ability that Windows 10 Pro users have to create ReFS volumes, reserving that to the newly created Windows Pro for Workstations and of course, Enterprise.

Of course, the article doesn't say it, but OS system upgrades will eventually be forced if you want to continue having support, but I suspect it will be after 18 months, which is akin to the existing Service Pack model.

When will they port the "Security" telemetry setting from Windows 10 Enterprise and Education to the Pro and Home editions? That's what I want to know.
 
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Originally Posted by DzillaXx View Post

I wish MS would change how they do big updates.

Hate how it pretty much installs a new version of windows every big update.

It was one thing when it was a service pack every 2 years or so, but once every 6 months is kinda pushing it.

I hate it when my work laptop gets stuck in a 20-30min update process, when I tell it to reboot (helps keep autocad from acting werid). Or when I leave my Work Laptop sleeping (which I normally do 99% of the time vs shutting down) with work open, just to come back the next day to everything being closed out as the machine deiced to come out of sleep and update. This for one needs to stop. Honestly have no idea why I don't disable updates on my work laptop, like I do with my Desktop.
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I believe they made system level changes to the process so it won't do that anymore.
 
#26 ·
Never bothered me really. But I'm on the Insider Preview Fast Ring and like getting all the newest builds to test out, bugs and all. I use Acronis True Image to make daily backups with their incremental backup scheme so I don't have to worry about any problems. I think in the ~2 years I have been using it, I've had maybe 2 incidents where I had to use one of my backups and let it try to update again. That's with dozens upon dozens of major updates. Though I can see how it would be a real pain for those that don't backup or want the newest builds and features all the time. It should have always been an option to begin with. More options are almost always better, especially when it comes to something as major as OS updates/upgrades. The newest fast ring update just downloaded before I left for work today. I deferred it till next week but will probably install it tonight. For those that don't have the options to defer for up to a month yet(or even much longer with the new update), you can always just turn off the Windows Update service and back on when you do want to update. It won't be long before they release the Fall update to the public and it will let you defer for at least 30 days and probably even have the newest up to a year(i think, maybe 6 months) option or possibly even turn off forced updates altogether by then.

Edit: And yes, what sticks435 said is correct. It doesn't upgrade like it used to with the newest builds. As of about 7 or 8 builds ago it uses a whole new method of upgrading. it doesn't reinstall all the start menu (metro) apps like before and a bunch of other things that it added back or changed in the past. It's a much easier process now.
 
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