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I have not even installed the board yet and I am almost tired with all the "horror" stories so far regarding the following:


-VROC Key or Samsung 960 Pro (lol with this as well) not showing through the DIMM 2 Slot (Ridiculous that they still advertise it though)

- Asus AURA Software not working properly or even bricking the LEDs when other software that has access to the SMB is run in parallel.

- Intel Security Issues & No new Firmware (ok not Asus fault on this one).

Just FYI
They have not now or ever advertised anything for VROC other than Intel drives.

Ive been riding them hard about the keys and was first told to update to BIOS 1004 (which I was already running) then after several back and forths that there will be no further updates regarding VROC untl Q1 2018. I fired back that this was unacceptable as some of us want redundancy (you can run raid 0 in pass through on intel drives) and reminded them of the continued marketing and specifications listing as well as manual publications and how it was fraud by misrepresentation. To that I was referred to the board website at the bottom where it says...........

*All specifications are subject to change without notice. Please check with your supplier for exact offers. Products may not be available in all markets.*

My supplier lists it as specified by the manufacturer. ASUS really chaps my a$$ with the disclaimers on everything. what da fugg if this board didnt run a 7980XE? Oh sorry...specifications are subject to change without notice....Even the emails from support have a disclaimer that its unoffical and off the record.

DISCLAIMER - All communications - written, illustrated, graphics, or any type of content/information present within these email(s) are considered "off the record," confidential and not for publication. Our company and the sender accept no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided. All information contained is direct, confidential communication between the sender and recipient. This content cannot be posted, used, copied or replicated in any way without direct written consent from Asus. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, copy, or distribute this message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.


Makes me think of the FB posts you see with disclamiers......useless. I had a friend that is counsel for the FTC that laughed at these disclaimers, very long and loudly might I add. Not so sure she didnt pee her pants she laughed so hard. Especially over the not the intended recipient part. "Oh if we screwed the pooch and emailed the wrong person with sensitive information you have to delete it and not even read it before you do. doh.gifoneeyedsmiley02.pngrolleyessmileyanim.gifbuttkick.gif


On the AURA the latest is .28 version is actually working somewhat for me, Best yet but still not perfect with the MOBO, 60CM of bitfenix LEDS, EK Monoblock and SLI Bridge on it.


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7740X working fine on the Rampage VI Extreme. Got a little annoyed today, grabbed my second R6E board for my 7900X and the plastic covers were all scratched. Got a perfect replacement the same day so I thought what the hell, let's try this...some quick clocks before going to bed. Not supported doesn't mean it doesn't work, but I understand the Kaby and Skylake-X CPUs are very different. BIOS looks exactly the same as when booting the 7740X on the APEX. Only the GPU works at x8 only, probably runs out of lanes and a lot of features on this board to try to disable next. wink.gif

Im confused
Is this a 7900X or 7740X?
And what else do you have plugged in?
Should be able to X16 on either no?
Edited by JustinThyme - 12/15/17 at 4:23am
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Im confused
Is this a 7900X or 7740X?
And what else do you have plugged in?
Should be able to X16 on either no?

7740X. It is not supported in R6E but it still "works". Probably due to this I am not able to get X16. It works fine on the Apex of course.
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Just FYI
They have not now or ever advertised anything for VROC other than Intel drives.

Ive been riding them hard about ..............................


| have been following you here and the ROG forum as my best source for information on this matter. To be honest I do not intend to run RAID on M2 drives through VROC but if its was working it would be nice as a future option.

Anyway, I expect an update for the Intel Security hole (which I think is in the making and a complex one), a properly working version of the Aura Software.

Regarding the disclaimers, let's be realistic here, who is going to court for a damn motherboard anyway. It would take a class action suit for them to even bother and I am not even in the US (I am in Greece) so it does not even apply to me as an option.

In short, I just want a stable, top performing platform for work related tasks. I would have gone the WS series way if the new models were like the previous X99 boards, but they are not. Yet, I want to try the 10Gbe networking feature sometime in the future and RVIE includes this plus it's "got the looks". It's also fun to do a bit of modding this time around with all the RGB LED stuff.
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| have been following you here and the ROG forum as my best source for information on this matter. To be honest I do not intend to run RAID on M2 drives through VROC but if its was working it would be nice as a future option.

Anyway, I expect an update for the Intel Security hole (which I think is in the making and a complex one), a properly working version of the Aura Software.

Regarding the disclaimers, let's be realistic here, who is going to court for a damn motherboard anyway. It would take a class action suit for them to even bother and I am not even in the US (I am in Greece) so it does not even apply to me as an option.

In short, I just want a stable, top performing platform for work related tasks. I would have gone the WS series way if the new models were like the previous X99 boards, but they are not. Yet, I want to try the 10Gbe networking feature sometime in the future and RVIE includes this plus it's "got the looks". It's also fun to do a bit of modding this time around with all the RGB LED stuff.

I’m with you for the most part. I just want what I bought to function as it was specified then and continues to be specified today.

As for legal matters the implications go deeper than just the board. The board is the backbone of the build and technology. The platform is built around the board. Let’s say just for arguments sake your 7980XE and pair of Nvidia Titan V cards were part of this investment and you were forced to go a different route to get the desired outcome like a Xeon platform where the 7980XE won’t work and the GPUs are not supported? Or ditch intel completely and go with AMD where Virtual raid is supported for free with no hassles. Whose fault is it that you built around what was specified and it failed to deliver to specification rendering the rest of the build that cannot be returned useless? Then there are possible punitive implications as well. A single user would have a viable complaint when seeking also the cost of legal fees. A class action would be a much better alternative though. I’m the end it’s all about who presents the best arguement and who has the deepest pockets for legal representation. I find the part trying to put it off on the supplier quite amusing. I’m completely certain the supplier I sourced my board from has pockets deep enough to bankrupt ASUS, they do it all the time. That would be the Walden corporation whose collective assets compared to ASUS is like comparing Bill Gates to a part time fast food employee.

In the end I just hope they do the right thing and deliver what they promised. Noting more, nothing less. It’s not like it’s a huge hit financially. It could be further mitigated by simply requiring one to request a key as not all people are adopting this platform for the VROC capabilities. They can probably source the keys in bulk for less than $20 each.
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I’m with you for the most part. I just want what I bought to function as it was specified then and continues to be specified today.

As for legal matters the implications go deeper than just the board. The board is the backbone of the build and technology. The platform is built around the board. Let’s say just for arguments sake your 7980XE and pair of Nvidia Titan V cards were part of this investment and you were forced to go a different route to get the desired outcome like a Xeon platform where the 7980XE won’t work and the GPUs are not supported? Or ditch intel completely and go with AMD where Virtual raid is supported for free with no hassles. Whose fault is it that you built around what was specified and it failed to deliver to specification rendering the rest of the build that cannot be returned useless? Then there are possible punitive implications as well. A single user would have a viable complaint when seeking also the cost of legal fees. A class action would be a much better alternative though. I’m the end it’s all about who presents the best arguement and who has the deepest pockets for legal representation. I find the part trying to put it off on the supplier quite amusing. I’m completely certain the supplier I sourced my board from has pockets deep enough to bankrupt ASUS, they do it all the time. That would be the Walden corporation whose collective assets compared to ASUS is like comparing Bill Gates to a part time fast food employee.

In the end I just hope they do the right thing and deliver what they promised. Noting more, nothing less. It’s not like it’s a huge hit financially. It could be further mitigated by simply requiring one to request a key as not all people are adopting this platform for the VROC capabilities. They can probably source the keys in bulk for less than $20 each.


That is indeed an interesting complication ( I bought mine from Amazon.de) but they could say this is a gaming platform although they do mention the word "Workstation" in their material if I recall correctly. Anyway, let's wait and see how things evolve by the end of January or February and we take it from there. It's Crhistmas soon too..thumb.gif
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That is indeed an interesting complication ( I bought mine from Amazon.de) but they could say this is a gaming platform although they do mention the word "Workstation" in their material if I recall correctly. Anyway, let's wait and see how things evolve by the end of January or February and we take it from there. It's Crhistmas soon too..thumb.gif

As I told the rep, my intention is to wait for the end of Q1 simply because someone for once said there WILL be updates to VROC in Q1 2018 instead of the “I’m escalating” to a superficial party and no further response as I got from the previous 3 reps with it taking a week in between replies. Then be patient and wait a few weeks twice and now it’s months but with at least a seemingly affirmative answer. On the other hand playing the devils advocate the update could be.....sorry, your skru’d
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As I told the rep, my intention is to wait for the end of Q1 simply because someone for once said there WILL be updates to VROC in Q1 2018 instead of the “I’m escalating” to a superficial party and no further response as I got from the previous 3 reps with it taking a week in between replies. Then be patient and wait a few weeks twice and now it’s months but with at least a seemingly affirmative answer. On the other hand playing the devils advocate the update could be.....sorry, your skru’d


Didn't someone mention on the ROG forum that ASRock will support certain VROC keys for Intel Drives only? If true it's encouraging and indicating that at least Intel could allow this instead of blocking it completely. Of course what ASRock may do does not translate to Asus doing the same. We shall see.
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Didn't someone mention on the ROG forum that ASRock will support certain VROC keys for Intel Drives only? If true it's encouraging and indicating that at least Intel could allow this instead of blocking it completely. Of course what ASRock may do does not translate to Asus doing the same. We shall see.
Yeah birdy something or other said something about a key he bought on a build that hasn’t happened but it’s all the same, no intel drive no VROC.
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I am almost ready to start OC'ing my 7820X/R6E

Would somebody give me some suggested start voltages for a 4.2 GHz with 2700MHz mesh OC? Below is what I am thinking at this time.

CPU Core Voltage: Manual
CPU Core Voltage Override: Start with 1.000
CPU Cache Voltage: Manual
CPU Cache Voltage Override: Start with 1.000
Uncore Voltage Offset: + 0.025
CPU Input Voltage: Start with 1.880
CPU VCCIO Voltage: No idea what to start with!
CPU System Agent Voltage: No idea what to start with, but a R6A OC guide a ran across said that CPU VCCIO and CPU SA should be the same.
https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/rog-rampage-vi-apex-overclocking-thread.1228947/
My System
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7820X @ 4.6 GHz / 3200 MHz Asus Rampage VI Extreme Zotac AMP Extreme GTX 1080 Ti 32GB G.Skill Trident X 16-16-16-36-1T @ 3600MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OS SSD 850 Pro 512 GB LG BR / DVD Thermalright IB-E x2 Win10 Pro 64b 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Alienware AW3418DW 34" 3440*1440 21:9 IPS LCD Corsair K95 RGB Platinum Corsair AX860i CM HAF-X 
Mouse
Logitech G703 Lightspeed 
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My System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7820X @ 4.6 GHz / 3200 MHz Asus Rampage VI Extreme Zotac AMP Extreme GTX 1080 Ti 32GB G.Skill Trident X 16-16-16-36-1T @ 3600MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OS SSD 850 Pro 512 GB LG BR / DVD Thermalright IB-E x2 Win10 Pro 64b 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Alienware AW3418DW 34" 3440*1440 21:9 IPS LCD Corsair K95 RGB Platinum Corsair AX860i CM HAF-X 
Mouse
Logitech G703 Lightspeed 
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