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Hi all, its been a long time since I was active on these forums. Good to be back.

I am about to build my first system in over 7 years, so since the first generation i7's were king biggrin.gif

Ive had a 4790k rig with 980ti up until 6 months ago but I didn't build it and sold it off to free up some funds.

EDIT:

Thanks everyone, I have taken delivery of nearly all of the below and will be building this weekend:

Components:

CPU: Intel Core i9 7900X 10C/20T
Motherboard: MSI X299 GAMING PRO CARBON
RAM: 32GB (4x8GB) Corsair 3000Mhz LPX DDR4
GPU: 2 x eVGA GTX 1080Ti SC2 GAMING
SSD: 960GB Sandisk Ultra II SATA SSD
HDD: 2TB WD Red 3.5" WD20EFRX
PSU: Corsair RM1000x & Red Sleeved cable kit
Sound Card: Creative Soundblaster ZxR
Case: Corsair 750D Airflow edition

CPU Watercooling:

Radiator: EK CoolStream XE 360
Pump/Res: EK XRES 140 Revo D5 PWM
Tubing: EK Duraclear Tubing 16/11
Fittings: 6 x EK ACF Fitting 12/16mm - Black
CPU Block: EK-FB MSI X299 GAMING PRO CARBON RGB Monoblock - Nickel
Radiator Fans: 3 x EK Vardar EVO 120ER Black (2200rpm)
Coolant: EK CryoFuel Blood Red Premix

Edited by The_Rocker - 9/8/17 at 1:40am
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I would upgrade your PSU if you plan to OC your gpus to a 1k model. My two 1080ti overclocked can spike as high as 960watt. That number was without my 6850k at the time being overclocked very hard. The rest looks good man, the PSU you have would work but leaves little to no head room for your system.
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post #3 of 59
Go Ryzen 7. Playing at 4k is less ipc dependent. In fact its almost a none issue. The core advantage will keep frames smoother compared to the i7.
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Originally Posted by keikei View Post

Go Ryzen 7. Playing at 4k is less ipc dependent. In fact its almost a none issue. The core advantage will keep frames smoother compared to the i7.

I was going to also recommend maybe going with Ryzen or even Intel's newer release of the 8700 with the additional cores if the OP does not upgrade a lot the cores in the future could be beneficial vs the higher core clocks and IPC of the 7700k. But I didn't want to throw a complete wrench in his plans but it could be food for thought.
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post #5 of 59
I personally would not recommend a quad core for a new build.
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post #6 of 59
Wait for Coffeelake or like others are saying go Ryzen. If it is 4K 60Hz try one 1080 Ti first. It is much faster than the 980 Ti. Now, if you dont have the monitor anymore, then i recommend a 4K 120Hz with Gsync and a single 1080 Ti. Get another card if not satisfied.

Get a beefier psu in case you go multi gpu.
Edited by rdr09 - 8/30/17 at 5:51am
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post #7 of 59
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I am definitely going for two 1080ti's so thats settled.

But now you lot are making me torn between changing to a Ryzen set up.

EDIT: So the majority of benchmarks I can find for gaming all show the quad core 7700k beating the 8 core Ryzen in nearly every case.

This just seems to be like the situation we were in years ago.... When people said get more cores over higher clocks, because in a couple of years all games will be multithreaded beasts.

Well here we are a number of years later and the higher cocked quad i7 with great ipc is yet again beating the chip with twice as many cores from AMD :-/

Confused.
Edited by The_Rocker - 8/30/17 at 6:49am
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post #8 of 59
Why do you want to spend so much money on something which does not work?
SLI support is getting worse and worse and even Nvidia support it less and less, SLI will also in some cases be slower then a single card making the game run WORSE

Why spend £700 something on something which does not work most of the time?
You should also be aware that Gigabyte does not have the best cooler (the Aorus cooler is downright flimsy) nor the best software and there are vendors with both better coolers and software

You should also drop the crappy Corsair CLC cooler and get a better AIO kit from EK Swiftech or Alphacool, if you want a CLC cooler the Be Quiet Silent Loop is better
http://www.overclock.net/t/1590547/why-you-should-probably-not-buy-a-clc-cooler

Edit: you should also know that an M.2 SSD is not going to be faster then a SATA III SSD when it comes to gaming
Linus made a video where they tested load times and the M.2 was just as fast as the SATA III SSD in every single game they tested

Games simply cant and wont use the faster speed of M.2 SSD´s
M.2 SSD´s also get freaking hot so you should also consider some sort of cooling for it

All in all there are many parts of your system that can be done better.
Edited by shilka - 8/30/17 at 7:05am
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post #9 of 59
I would personally put the build on hold for a few months. See what CoffeeLake will deliver with 6 cores. The primary difference right now compared to the last few years, is many game titiles/engines are designed cross platform. Now, these processors on the consoles are 8 threads... Before, they werent utilizing more than 4 threads on cross platform titles. More software will be multi-threaded... The days of quads will be coming to an end soon. Much like 2 cores saw end of usefulness for anything besides light work in 2009.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shilka View Post

Why do you want to spend so much money on something which does not work?
SLI support is getting worse and worse and even Nvidia support it less and less, SLI will also in some cases be slower then a single card making the game run WORSE

Why spend £700 something on something which does not work most of the time?
You should also be aware that Gigabyte does not have the best cooler (the Aorus cooler is downright flimsy) nor the best software and there are vendors with both better coolers and software

You should also drop the crappy Corsair CLC cooler and get a better AIO kit from EK Swiftech or Alphacool, if you want a CLC cooler the Be Quiet Silent Loop is better
http://www.overclock.net/t/1590547/why-you-should-probably-not-buy-a-clc-cooler

Edit: you should also know that an M.2 SSD is not going to be faster then a SATA III SSD when it comes to gaming
Linus made a video where they tested load times and the M.2 was just as fast as the SATA III SSD in every single game they tested

Games simply cant and wont use the faster speed of M.2 SSD´s
M.2 SSD´s also get freaking hot so you should also consider some sort of cooling for it

All in all there are many parts of your system that can be done better.

Points heard and understood RE the cooler and Gigabyte cards.

However, if SLI is still anything like my previous experiences all be them old, (8800GTX's, 9800GTX's, GTX280's and GTX480's) then I believe its worth it. Are you saying it has got a lot worse?

RE the NVMe SSD. Its of great importance to me to get the fastest storage possible. If a game doesn't want to take advantage of that speed then hey ho, thats just the way its written.
Edited by The_Rocker - 8/30/17 at 7:18am
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2 x Sandisk UltraII 1TB SSD (RAID 0) Custom Water w/ EK XE360 & EK XRES 140 D5 & EK ... Windows 10 Pro Acer Predator XB271HU 165Hz 1440p 
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Razer Blackwidow Chroma V2 eVGA SuperNova T2 1600w w/Sleeved cables Thermaltake Core X71 Razer Deathadder Elite 
Audio
Creative Soundblaster X7 
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2 x 128GB Crucial C300 SSD (RAID 0) & Samsung F... Pioneer DVR215D Heatkiller 3.0 Full Copper / Black Ice 360GTS Windows 7 Pro 
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