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#1 ·
My current build is 7 years old and I recently had to replace my graphics card and monitor. So, naturally, I have the itch to start a completely new build!

I remember there was a lot of talk about ram/motherboard issues when Ryzen was first released, but haven't kept up to date on this. Have these issues been resolved or are they still around?

I would also appreciate any advice on part selection (the main purpose would be gaming on 1440p). I will be carrying over the 1070, otherwise the parts I plan to purchase are:

  • Ryzen 5 1600
  • Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
  • EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W
  • Fractal Define C
Thanks!
 
#2 ·
You should know that an M.2 SSD is not really worth it as the high speeds can only really be used in synthetic benchmarks otherwise nothing uses the high speeds which means loading times is going to be the same as with a SATA III SSD

You should also know that they get very hot which may lead to thermal throttling if there is not enough air flow going over the SSD
So some sort of cooling for the 960 Evo should be considered if you still want it despite all the drawbacks

M.2 SSD are really not worth it and are in ways completely pointless
Use the money on a bigger SATA SSD instead or something else that will actually be useful.
 
#4 ·
I have almost always used Asus motherboards and Kingston RAM in most of my builds

I also saw that you picked a 650 watt PSU which by the way you dont need since your system wont even draw 350 watts and thats with OC on CPU and GPU
Not too sure on prices but you might be able to save a litte bit by dropping down to a 550 watt

Or you can keep it if there is litte to no price difference.
 
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

The Seasonic Focus Plus Gold is smaller newer and has better voltage regulation then the EVGA SuperNova G2
The G2 is pretty big so you might have problems fitting a G2 into a smaller case.
DAMN, looks like Seasonic is stepping up with another new release. Could it be they are now beating the Evga product lines with their own upgraded PSU's
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#11 ·
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

You should know that an M.2 SSD is not really worth it as the high speeds can only really be used in synthetic benchmarks otherwise nothing uses the high speeds which means loading times is going to be the same as with a SATA III SSD

You should also know that they get very hot which may lead to thermal throttling if there is not enough air flow going over the SSD
So some sort of cooling for the 960 Evo should be considered if you still want it despite all the drawbacks

M.2 SSD are really not worth it and are in ways completely pointless
Use the money on a bigger SATA SSD instead or something else that will actually be useful.
The 960 Evo is an NvMe drive( 3200MB/s read and 1800MB/s write) isn't it?
 
#12 ·
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

You should know that an M.2 SSD is not really worth it as the high speeds can only really be used in synthetic benchmarks otherwise nothing uses the high speeds which means loading times is going to be the same as with a SATA III SSD

You should also know that they get very hot which may lead to thermal throttling if there is not enough air flow going over the SSD
So some sort of cooling for the 960 Evo should be considered if you still want it despite all the drawbacks

M.2 SSD are really not worth it and are in ways completely pointless
Use the money on a bigger SATA SSD instead or something else that will actually be useful.
If this is true then I see no reason to get this.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/471506/960_PRO_Series_512GB_NVMe_M2_Internal_SSD
 
#13 ·
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Originally Posted by delerious View Post

The 960 Evo is an NvMe drive( 3200MB/s read and 1800MB/s write) isn't it?
The read and write speeds does not matter if nothing uses them

Linus made a video where they tested load times in games and the load times where exactly the same with an M.2 as with an old SATA III SSD
Synthetic benchmarks are one of the few places where you see the use of the full speds otherwise most dont and cant use the full speeds

So again M.2 SSD´s are not really worth it as you are paying for something that is not better then an old SATA SSD.
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Originally Posted by Ascii Aficionado View Post

If this is true then I see no reason to get this.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/471506/960_PRO_Series_512GB_NVMe_M2_Internal_SSD
Only reason to get the 960 Pro is if you want an SSD in a smaller form factor then a 2,5 inch SATA SSD.
 
#14 ·
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

So again M.2 SSD´s are not really worth it as you are paying for something that is not better then an old SATA SSD.
AGREED.

I bought only Samsung PRO 850's at 512mb each. Great OS drive and believe it or not, it still uses the original Microsoft driver from 2006 (applied by the OS).

Hence if Microsoft sees fit to use their older driver (still) with this latest gear then forget about ever using an M.2 drive at it's maximum speed.
 
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Originally Posted by Peter Panther View Post

Ahum -already sounding like a dork out of his mind- but what are all those crazy comments on about saying they installed Win10 in under five minutes using their SM 961 (better than PM-verzy?!).. slightly out of theirs as well? *shoulder pet shrugs* or were pumpkins pre-seasonably obstructing our views? they should be a beginner's aim for shooting arrows with, right?-) just sayne..

..gettin' worse: N.2 vs PCIe x Sata3 etc tada... what?

Oi Google, bring the stick back...

Odysseus throws a quiver through twelve axe-holes in a row, what are b-rating mainboard architectures sitting at William Tell's round table. ..a stork gets carried away via babies/Neckwood.
wat
 
#16 ·
Why not step up and get the Ryzen 7 and go for 8 core/16 thread? You're already IPC limited gaming at high res (which is good). The moar cores the better.
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@ Peter Panther: Dat hat is epic.
 
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#18 ·
More and more games are using multiple cores. It depends on the engine, but its to your advantage to have more cores. The cryengine would be a good example. Games are just now coming out with it (takes several years). Not just core utilization, but smoother gameplay as well. More cores means less taxing on your overall system. Ryzen is the chip for game streamers for a reason.
 
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