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Assuming I win as big as possible with Ryzen 1700x/1800x, whats the most I can get out of it? Is it just a futile endevor?

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Just from what I have read, Ryzen over clocking is somewhat lackluster, and it seems the most anyone can do is like 4.2 ghz.

That was awhile ago just from what I read, assuming I "Win big" what is the most I can over clock it? Im on a quest for a build, and what I really dont get with ryzen is that it already seems they do things according to the silicon lottery, because they are all reportedly the same die, from the Ryzen 3 to the 1950x with the 1950 only having more dies on the chip.

So is Winning the silicon lottery on Ryzen not going to happen, since they already hand it out too you? Just in terms of price to performance, 1700x seems to come on top since its only 300 on newegg now, while the 1800x is some 430usd, and thats a near 50% raise price jack for a mere 5.111111...% performance increase from 3.8 to 4ghz

I guess I am a little confused with ryzen and how to get the best out of it, perhaps i should just stick to focusing how fast I can make my ram with it? AMD's are supposed to do notably better with faster ram, so going from a stock 2666 in duel channel to 3200 or more might be more effective then over clocking. Or am I wrong?

Im not sure if its possible, but since the dies and at times, the cores count being physically the same, is it possible to do some "core unlocking"? Like in the old phenom days? A cheap way of making a 1600x into a 1800x, or 1700x??
Edited by WildWhite - 9/3/17 at 9:09pm
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1800x buttkick.gif 1700x/1700rgb stock cooler.
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From what I've heard, AMD themselves binned the processors or dies, whatever, and only the top 5% go on to become Threadripper chips. I would say that makes finding a regular Ryzen chip capable of much over 4.0 unlikely.

Maybe this will change with Bios updates, but I would doubt the average will ever be too much higher.

If value is your concern, just get the regular 1700 and overclock. Seeing as they all have the same OC range and are the same chip. The only thing you lose is a few stock mhz.
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Ya, I might be over killing it doing liquid cooling, then again, I really also want to do all liquid cooling for gpu, and cpu. A fast fan and as big a radiator as I can fit in SG06.
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... only the top 5% go on to become Threadripper chips. I would say that makes finding a regular Ryzen chip capable of much over 4.0 unlikely.

Maybe this will change with Bios updates, but I would doubt the average will ever be too much higher.

If value is your concern, just get the regular 1700 and overclock. Seeing as they all have the same OC range and are the same chip. The only thing you lose is a few stock mhz.

I suspect this may be the case, but I also suspect that it may be possible to do "Core unlocking" like back in the phenom days.

Perhaps I should stick more to overclocking ram. Ryzen performance is supposed to be much better the faster you push it, assuming latency can be low.
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