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My GTX 760 is dying and on it's last leg overheating and crashing even on the most basic applications. I need a new graphics card but I honestly don't know enough about them to make an informed decision, I have never had to buy one before. If you guys would humor me with a few questions it would help me a ton.
What advantages do the AMD GPUs have over the GTX series? I know most consider the GTX 1080 to be the benchmark but after this premature GPU meltdown I want to look at other options before jumping on another Nvidea and there are some nice prices on RX 580s.
My 760 has a 130w draw and my power supply says 130w is the max, my power supply might be able to step up to a 150w (500w power supply) but in case not what is the best performing GPU in the 130w range? If I overload the power supply would it damage the CPU/GPU or would it just burn out the power supply itself? The reason I ask is it seems all of the really good cards are in the 150w range.
How hard is it to install this yourself or should I run it to a computer shop?
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It's pretty easy to DIY even for those with little experience in handling electronics.

Here is a good write up to check out:
https://www.msi.com/blog/pc-gaming-101-how-to-upgrade-your-graphics-card

Whats your price range?
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Oh I am not on a real tight budget, I could afford something in the $300-$400 card without breaking a sweat, I could buy a crate of 1080TIs with what I have in the bank but I am trying to buy a house so I cannot splurge on a custom gaming rig yet.
I cannot say I have any real electronics experience, I was a mechanic in the Army and I have opened my tower before to clean it but I have never built any electronics.
post #4 of 27
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Oh I am not on a real tight budget, I could afford something in the $300-$400 card without breaking a sweat, I could buy a crate of 1080TIs with what I have in the bank but I am trying to buy a house so I cannot splurge on a custom gaming rig yet.
I cannot say I have any real electronics experience, I was a mechanic in the Army and I have opened my tower before to clean it but I have never built any electronics.

Hey man don't sweat it. I'm sure you have installed much harder parts as a mechanic. That guide above basically sums it up.
RX 580(8GB) and GTX 1060(6GB) are very close in performance to each other.

However if you are comfortable spending ~$400ish the GTX 1070 is worth it. It would help to know the rest of your components though.
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Oh my bad, ASUS G10 tower, 500w power supply, i5 4570 processor with 8GB RAM Windows 10 OS. Pretty sure that the 1070 or 580 could outpace my processor but I plan on updating to a i7 before too long.
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Oh my bad, ASUS G10 tower, 500w power supply, i5 4570 processor with 8GB RAM Windows 10 OS. Pretty sure that the 1070 or 580 could outpace my processor but I plan on updating to a i7 before too long.

Yeah it will depend on the game. I don't think it will bottleneck too hard for most games though. Do you know which model of power supply you have? If it's high quality you could get a 580 or 1070
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post #7 of 27
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Oh I don't remember what brand it is, whatever came with my G10 tower. The 760 that I am currently running is rated at 130w only 20w below a 1070/1080.
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Part of the reason I asked what would burn up if I overload my elchepo 500w power source. If it is the power source itself no big deal I would just replace with a better one, but if it would burn up the CPU/GPU no way I would do it.
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There are a few users on this forum who always jump on a thread where someone mentions having a cheap power supply and provide excellent recommendations that I would suggest listening to. A cheap power supply can be outright dangerous. If they go they can literally catch on fire, taking anything connected to it with it if not burning down the house. A quality 500w unit can easily handle any mainstream rig with a single card. One of my machines has an i7 3770k at 4.9GHz and a GTX 1070 at 2100MHz only pulling 380w or so at the wall under heavy load, even less than that after accounting for losses in the PSU itself. A model on the PSU would be helpful to know what we're dealing with. A good quality power supply should just shut down safely if overloaded, unlike a cheapo.

Also if your 760 has been overheating have you cleaned it? Heatsinks love to collect dust over the years, especially if it's stuffed on the floor somewhere or around pets. That's not a super powerful card by any means so there's nothing wrong with wanting to upgrade, but rather I'm just curious if it can be saved. What do you mainly do with the computer? If you're playing modern games at a high resolution and/or refresh rate a 1070 or 1080 is a fine choice. If you're doing mostly simpler stuff at 1080p or lower a GTX 1060 is more than enough for most things.
 
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