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Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post

Your video card depends on your gaming resolution. For 1080p, anything beyond a GTX 1070 gives you diminishing returns. For 1440p, a GTX 1080 gives pretty solid value. There's nothing wrong with stepping up to a GTX 1080 Ti if prices are close enough. Not sure what the market looks like at the moment.
Im also getting Asus P279Q 27 inch monitor... How about now?
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I like gigabyte for the most part, but think they're a little overpriced for what you get. I've had a couple, and haven't had issues with them. I just feel that in the mid range, asrock tends to offer the most features for the lowest price.

I personally feel that Noctua fans ate way over priced, if you have low air restriction in the case, no real need for expensive fans. It's a matter of taste as well.

The Noctua cooler should work with most motherboards and the case you are planning so long as you don't use tall memory heat spreaders (then you may need to reposition the fan above the memory), which the vengeance lpx don't have.

NH-D15 is a really tight fit on motherboards that use the top pcie slot for the gpu with a backplate. So, when choosing a motherboard, I would try to get one that has a 1x pcie or m.2 slot on the top expansion slot closest to the cpy.

Image for reference.
06-noctua-cooler-back.jpg

Definitely get an ssd. These days, no reason to use a mechanical drive for the operating system. It makes everything that involves disk access go faster, not just initial boot. Loading games is a night and day difference, and general tasks are considerably faster. I can't go back to mechanical drives as an os drive.

There's no point in having fast hardware if you're going to be waiting for the needle to move on the drive every time it seeks. All of my builds use a relatively small ssd (now 250gb), with a large 7200rpm drive for data storage. I lately have just been using wd blue instead of black since the storage drives don't really need to be very high performance since they aren't the primary drive.
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Well.. what I know about SSD's is that they just make your system start faster... which ... dont bother me really...
I understood that its not worth it to build only SSD system because its too expensive for the minor increases it gives to gaming.
I've also undestood that I dont need it to start up my system that fast... I can go make tea for those two minutes the PC starts up

Once you go SSD, you'll never go back. Its not just start up time, but everything else; opening of every program, browser etc.
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I like gigabyte for the most part, but think they're a little overpriced for what you get. I've had a couple, and haven't had issues with them. I just feel that in the mid range, asrock tends to offer the most features for the lowest price.

I personally feel that Noctua fans ate way over priced, if you have low air restriction in the case, no real need for expensive fans. It's a matter of taste as well.

The Noctua cooler should work with most motherboards and the case you are planning so long as you don't use tall memory heat spreaders (then you may need to reposition the fan above the memory), which the vengeance lpx don't have.

NH-D15 is a really tight fit on motherboards that use the top pcie slot for the gpu with a backplate. So, when choosing a motherboard, I would try to get one that has a 1x pcie or m.2 slot on the top expansion slot closest to the cpy.

Image for reference.
06-noctua-cooler-back.jpg

Definitely get an ssd. These days, no reason to use a mechanical drive for the operating system. It makes everything that involves disk access go faster, not just initial boot. Loading games is a night and day difference, and general tasks are considerably faster. I can't go back to mechanical drives as an os drive.

There's no point in having fast hardware if you're going to be waiting for the needle to move on the drive every time it seeks. All of my builds use a relatively small ssd (now 250gb), with a large 7200rpm drive for data storage. I lately have just been using wd blue instead of black since the storage drives don't really need to be very high performance since they aren't the primary drive.
As Ive already decided, I will wait for Coffee Lake and see what 300 mobos will fit in to my build.
Regarding the D15... Ive watched Linux video and he said that this specific CPU cooler doesnt have a problem with RAM cus it is built like how it should be. Something about ability to place the fans higher. Also Ive found this usefull page
http://noctua.at/en/how-big-is-the-nh-d15-and-how-much-clearance-does-it-provide-for-ram-and-chipset-coolers
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Once you go SSD, you'll never go back. Its not just start up time, but everything else; opening of every program, browser etc.
The build Is already kinda more expencive then I initaly wanted it to be but I guess I take a small SSD...
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Im also getting Asus P279Q 27 inch monitor... How about now?
I mentioned which video cards you should consider for 1440p gaming. Either a GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti.
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The cooler may not have a problem with tall heat spreaders, but having tall heatspreaders requires moving the fan upwards, and if you have to move the fan more than about 15mm, you will run out of space in the case, and will need to remove the fan or use a 120mm fan. I'm just letting you know to keep lower heat spreader memory in mind.

Noctua say 32mm clearance without moving the fan. For reference, here are the sizes for g.skill memory.

Trident Z: 44mm (1.73in)
Ripjaws V: 42mm (1.65in)
Ripjaws 4: 40mm (1.58in)

TridentX: 54mm (2.13in) with fin; 39mm (1.54in) without fin
RipjawsX: 40mm (1.58in)
RipjawsZ: 40mm (1.58in)
Ripjaws: 40mm (1.58in)
Sniper: 42mm (1.65in)
ECO: 32mm (1.26in)
ARES: 33mm (1.30in)
post #17 of 101
Get an M2 SSD. Dont bother with a 2.5 inch drive. Like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-EVO-Internal-MZ-V6E500BW/dp/B01LYFKX41?th=1
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What about something like this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TyGWkT

It's a little more optimized price to performance. The cooler is the next model down, but I've had it on an overclocked 1800x and I was able to keep it cool even at 4 GHz with it. The SSD isn't the fastest in writes, but it's good for price-performance. And the Asus Strix 1080 Ti is a great GPU, while being hundreds less than the Gigabyte variant.

And you can just use the same tier CPU and motherboard when coffee lake launches.
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Get an M2 SSD. Dont bother with a 2.5 inch drive. Like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-EVO-Internal-MZ-V6E500BW/dp/B01LYFKX41?th=1
Its the other way dont bother with a M.2 drive as they are only faster in synthetic benchmarks
They are not in any way faster then SATA SSD´s due to massive software limitations from Microsoft and everyone else

Linus tech tips made a video where they tested load times with both SATA and M.2 SSD´s and the load times where exactly the same across all games and all tests
Untill or even IF the software limitations are overcome M.2 SSD´s are a waste of money

Another thing to consinder is some of the M.2´s get hot enough to thermal throttle which means that some sort of cooling might be needed

Edit: if you want the full speeds of an M.2 SSD without any software limitations you need to move to Linux
Edited by shilka - 9/19/17 at 1:46am
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I dream of living in a world where people differentiate between SSDs via protocol instead of interface.
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