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What about something like this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TyGWkT

It's a little more optimized price to performance. The cooler is the next model down, but I've had it on an overclocked 1800x and I was able to keep it cool even at 4 GHz with it. The SSD isn't the fastest in writes, but it's good for price-performance. And the Asus Strix 1080 Ti is a great GPU, while being hundreds less than the Gigabyte variant.

And you can just use the same tier CPU and motherboard when coffee lake launches.
For the same price as the wd blue ssd he can get a Samsung 850 evo or crucial mx300 which are better performing drives.

M.2 or 2.5" SATA based drives perform exactly the same. The nvme based m.2 drives they are talking about would show no real world advantage for your use. SATA3 based ssd is all that is needed, and the 850 evo or mx300 is the perfect price/gb vs performance. It has been for some time now.

I would go with a thermalright macho revB cooler personally... but everyone has their preference. I think it has better value, close to similar performance at lower decibels for about 15% less money. If you are not going to delid the cpu, then you won't really see much difference between the best and the rest of the top 10% of coolers.

On my old 3570k that I gave my nephew, which was not delidded, I had the same temps at 4.6ghz on custom water as he had with the macho (within a degree at same ambient). Macho has zero interference with mainstream memory dimms.
Edited by EMUracing - 9/19/17 at 12:26pm
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I like gigabyte for the most part, but think they're a little overpriced for what you get. I've had a couple, and haven't had issues with them. I just feel that in the mid range, asrock tends to offer the most features for the lowest price.

I personally feel that Noctua fans ate way over priced, if you have low air restriction in the case, no real need for expensive fans. It's a matter of taste as well.

The Noctua cooler should work with most motherboards and the case you are planning so long as you don't use tall memory heat spreaders (then you may need to reposition the fan above the memory), which the vengeance lpx don't have.

NH-D15 is a really tight fit on motherboards that use the top pcie slot for the gpu with a backplate. So, when choosing a motherboard, I would try to get one that has a 1x pcie or m.2 slot on the top expansion slot closest to the cpy.

Image for reference.
06-noctua-cooler-back.jpg

Definitely get an ssd. These days, no reason to use a mechanical drive for the operating system. It makes everything that involves disk access go faster, not just initial boot. Loading games is a night and day difference, and general tasks are considerably faster. I can't go back to mechanical drives as an os drive.

There's no point in having fast hardware if you're going to be waiting for the needle to move on the drive every time it seeks. All of my builds use a relatively small ssd (now 250gb), with a large 7200rpm drive for data storage. I lately have just been using wd blue instead of black since the storage drives don't really need to be very high performance since they aren't the primary drive.
As Ive already decided, I will wait for Coffee Lake and see what 300 mobos will fit in to my build.
Regarding the D15... Ive watched Linux video and he said that this specific CPU cooler doesnt have a problem with RAM cus it is built like how it should be. Something about ability to place the fans higher. Also Ive found this usefull page
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The cooler may not have a problem with tall heat spreaders, but having tall heatspreaders requires moving the fan upwards, and if you have to move the fan more than about 15mm, you will run out of space in the case, and will need to remove the fan or use a 120mm fan. I'm just letting you know to keep lower heat spreader memory in mind.

Noctua say 32mm clearance without moving the fan. For reference, here are the sizes for g.skill memory.

Trident Z: 44mm (1.73in)
Ripjaws V: 42mm (1.65in)
Ripjaws 4: 40mm (1.58in)

TridentX: 54mm (2.13in) with fin; 39mm (1.54in) without fin
RipjawsX: 40mm (1.58in)
RipjawsZ: 40mm (1.58in)
Ripjaws: 40mm (1.58in)
Sniper: 42mm (1.65in)
ECO: 32mm (1.26in)
ARES: 33mm (1.30in)

sorry for that but what is "lower heat spreader memory"
Do you think there needs to be space left ( and how much if it is ) between the d15 radiator and ram sticks? So It wont damage the RAM?
post #23 of 101
I have a Noctua NH-D15S cooler and i use Kingston Hyper X Savage RAM and since they are low profile RAM i dont have any issues at all
Really dont get why G Skill have such tall heatsinks on their RAM when Kingston and Corsair has RAM with shorter heatsinks that works fine without problems

I say dont bother with G skill and get a low profile Kingston kit instead.
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I have a Noctua NH-D15S cooler and i use Kingston Hyper X Savage RAM and since they are low profile RAM i dont have any issues at all
Really dont get why G Skill have such tall heatsinks on their RAM when Kingston and Corsair has RAM with shorter heatsinks that works fine without problems

I say dont bother with G skill and get a low profile Kingston kit instead.
I thought about Corsair Vengeance 2x8 3000mhz, but i cant seem to find the exact size of it, You think it weill fit
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On the topic of SSDs -- when I start up my Ark: Survival Evolved server on my 5400 RPM HDD it takes between 6-10 minutes. On my SSD it takes 30-40 seconds tops. Loading up the game itself (not just the server) is also much slower -- same for 7 Days to Die, Rust, etc.

SSD for your OS/games is a massive boon.
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post #26 of 101
Couple things . A liquid CPU cooler would be more efficient while taking up less space ( imo ) . Also if you ever want to upgrade to a more powerful build go for a bigger PSU . 650w is starting to push your future upgrade choices .
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As Ive already decided, I will wait for Coffee Lake and see what 300 mobos will fit in to my build.
Regarding the D15... Ive watched Linux video and he said that this specific CPU cooler doesnt have a problem with RAM cus it is built like how it should be. Something about ability to place the fans higher. Also Ive found this usefull page
sorry for that but what is "lower heat spreader memory"
Do you think there needs to be space left ( and how much if it is ) between the d15 radiator and ram sticks? So It wont damage the RAM?

"Lower heat spreader memory" in that context means the metal fins on the memory are shorter so they won't make contact with the CPU cooler.

And also while I have your attention, an SSD is one of those things you would regret not getting. However a SATA SSD is sufficient, the NVMe M2 ones are overkill and useless for most users at this time... Perhaps that changes in the future but I wouldn't worry about that now.
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Its the other way dont bother with a M.2 drive as they are only faster in synthetic benchmarks
They are not in any way faster then SATA SSD´s due to massive software limitations from Microsoft and everyone else

Linus tech tips made a video where they tested load times with both SATA and M.2 SSD´s and the load times where exactly the same across all games and all tests
Untill or even IF the software limitations are overcome M.2 SSD´s are a waste of money


Another thing to consinder is some of the M.2´s get hot enough to thermal throttle which means that some sort of cooling might be needed

Edit: if you want the full speeds of an M.2 SSD without any software limitations you need to move to Linux

Just to add to this, M.2's aren't technically a waste of money. Their form-factor is what makes them special. 22x80mm, direct connection to the motherboard. No Sata cables/power cables required. One less thing to cable tidy. I'd pay £10 extra just so I didn't have to plug a damn drive in. Then you're stuck trying to figure out what to do with the surplus.


Edit: We also need to explain to the OP the differences between different M.2's. Some are Nvme, some are Sata, some are PCIe, and they all mean very different things, and some motherboards are not compatible with certain ones. Albeit most modern ones are. See here for further reading.
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Definitely get an SSD for the OS . I like the Samsungs. EVO 850 is really good. EVO 960 is also very good. With proper case cooling, M.2 NVME are great; they take up very little space.

Corsair Vengeance are low profile.

Microcenter usually has low prices on CPUs and RAM.

Your GPU should be one that fits a known aftermarket water block so you won't get upset when you can't water-cool it later.

Go for Ryzen or wait for Ice Lake. devil-smiley-019.gif
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