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Edit: We also need to explain to the OP the differences between different M.2's. Some are Nvme, some are Sata, some are PCIe, and they all mean very different things, and some motherboards are not compatible with certain ones. Albeit most modern ones are. See here for further reading.

He's concerned about blowing budget, so if he cares about the minor aesthetic detail he can look for a SATA based M2, but otherwise stick to the SATA SSD.

I get the impression he isn't going to be as hardcore on the minor details as some on our forums can be.
post #32 of 101
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He's concerned about blowing budget, so if he cares about the minor aesthetic detail he can look for a SATA based M2, but otherwise stick to the SATA SSD.

I get the impression he isn't going to be as hardcore on the minor details as some on our forums can be.

Whilst I agree with you, and I get that he is trying to save money. The difference in price between M.2 and a 2.5" SSD isn't all that much. If he is penny pinching I'd recommend Ryzen 1600, use the wraith cooler and be done with it. Cheaper motherboard, cheaper processor, and comes with a cooler. Knocks a fair amount off.
    
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Something akin to this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9dMnxY

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CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($196.74 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($86.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: ADATA - XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY - CS2030 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($112.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card ($749.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT - Noctis 450 ROG ATX Mid Tower Case ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Platinum 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $1548.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-20 09:41 EDT-0400
    
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post #34 of 101
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Whilst I agree with you, and I get that he is trying to save money. The difference in price between M.2 and a 2.5" SSD isn't all that much. If he is penny pinching I'd recommend Ryzen 1600, use the wraith cooler and be done with it. Cheaper motherboard, cheaper processor, and comes with a cooler. Knocks a fair amount off.

That is a fair point, if he is trying to save money he really should look at Ryzen 1600. Especially if he wants to build something now & not wait around for coffee lake.
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That is a fair point, if he is trying to save money he really should look at Ryzen 1600. Especially if he wants to build something now & not wait around for coffee lake.

The build above has that lovely ROG case on it too. Can drop another $80 off without that. I just thought if he was going ROG themed... motherboard and GPU... may as well get the case tongue.gif! Heck, could even get the ROG Ram... ROG Keyboard & Mouse, and ROG Swift... he'll be all ROGGED out.
    
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post #36 of 101
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Couple things . A liquid CPU cooler would be more efficient while taking up less space ( imo ) . Also if you ever want to upgrade to a more powerful build go for a bigger PSU . 650w is starting to push your future upgrade choices .
I dont want to deal with liquid , dont wanna change it every half a year or what ever maintance it does need, Im not sure I understand how liquid technology works and that I will probably need to send it to lab for fixing and it will cost me monies (which i dont have, im poor af smile.gif). Fans are for lazy users like me. Maximum you need to do is clean it of dust sometimes.
Regarding the PSU, guys in other thread actually recommended me to reduce it from 750W to 650W. They said I dont need that much. Im not overclocking , if it matters., I dont think that I will ever do SLI... And I dont think that there will be any new products that gotta spike the W use dramaticly because every company tries to actually lower thir product W use
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"Lower heat spreader memory" in that context means the metal fins on the memory are shorter so they won't make contact with the CPU cooler.

And also while I have your attention, an SSD is one of those things you would regret not getting. However a SATA SSD is sufficient, the NVMe M2 ones are overkill and useless for most users at this time... Perhaps that changes in the future but I wouldn't worry about that now.
What SSD would you recommend?
post #37 of 101
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What SSD would you recommend?
What size are you looking for? You're looking at 120GB for ~$55, 240GB for ~$85, 480GB for ~$135 and 1TB for ~$250

Edit: best bang for your buck:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CVDC3R6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
post #38 of 101
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Originally Posted by crash4fun View Post

He's concerned about blowing budget, so if he cares about the minor aesthetic detail he can look for a SATA based M2, but otherwise stick to the SATA SSD.

I get the impression he isn't going to be as hardcore on the minor details as some on our forums can be.
If minor details are colors and lights than you are correct, It can be a pink case with no windows and cat pictures all over it I dont really care, same as to all the lighting on RAM's GPUs and etc. I actually plan to turn everything off at the first day.
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Originally Posted by Roxborough View Post

Whilst I agree with you, and I get that he is trying to save money. The difference in price between M.2 and a 2.5" SSD isn't all that much. If he is penny pinching I'd recommend Ryzen 1600, use the wraith cooler and be done with it. Cheaper motherboard, cheaper processor, and comes with a cooler. Knocks a fair amount off.
Not that I'm an Intel fan boi , but I've been using Intel since the beginning of time when the trees were tall and Im pretty much familiar with it regarding the hardware. Also I cannot allow my self to overheat the PC since I also live in a hot climate without air conditioning. ( I have a floor fan biggrin.gif)
Im just not ready for a change I guess.
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That is a fair point, if he is trying to save money he really should look at Ryzen 1600. Especially if he wants to build something now & not wait around for coffee lake.
Cofevee It Is... Already made contact with the local shop, they will get mobos for it at the same time. I will also see what kind of mobos will come out regarding the ram clearance which I worry because of Noct D15.
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Originally Posted by Roxborough View Post

The build above has that lovely ROG case on it too. Can drop another $80 off without that. I just thought if he was going ROG themed... motherboard and GPU... may as well get the case tongue.gif! Heck, could even get the ROG Ram... ROG Keyboard & Mouse, and ROG Swift... he'll be all ROGGED out.
I prefer efficiency to looks . I prefer it to look like a butt but work like charm
post #39 of 101
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Originally Posted by crash4fun View Post

What size are you looking for? You're looking at 120GB for ~$55, 240GB for ~$85, 480GB for ~$135 and 1TB for ~$250

Edit: best bang for your buck:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CVDC3R6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think 250 is enough , how much does a OS need half of that? and than there will be a room for a game or two... I never used SSD actually... I also heard that they dont recommend to fill it to the bottleneck because it gets slower as more stuff are written on it.
post #40 of 101
RyZen systems run pretty cool actually, as they do not overclock very high. That being said if you want to overclock & have better performance overall, get Coffee (Covfefe biggrin.gif) lake. Nobody is 100% sure on the final pricing for it but I guarantee it will be a great deal more expensive then RyZen though, so price to performance you are guaranteed to be losing out. I wouldn't rule it out, two of my best buds just built RyZen systems and they couldn't be happier.

If you want my full perspective I put off upgrading my system in full from i7 Ivy Bridge 3rd gen, and instead bought a 1TB SSD and GTX 1080Ti. I believe these two upgrades have been far more practical for me then if I had upgraded mobo/cpu/ram at this time. I simply love having my entire game library on a single SSD.
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