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How much was the original?
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How much was the original?

They were 30 or 40 bucks if I recall correctly.
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They were 30 or 40 bucks if I recall correctly.

Due to the onscreen display alone, I think we're looking at near $100 for the controller. A wireless option would be lovely.
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Due to the onscreen display alone, I think we're looking at near $100 for the controller. A wireless option would be lovely.

You could just find an old one and get a USB adapter. thumb.gif
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The worst modern controller gets a comeback, and the only change is to make it dumber and more expensive by adding an unusable screen... yeah ok then.
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While you may not like it, it has quite the cult following, if they do this right, it will do well.
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The worst modern controller gets a comeback, and the only change is to make it dumber and more expensive by adding an unusable screen... yeah ok then.

They added shoulder buttons ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Interesting fact with this thing, just skimmed the source, apologies if it was mentioned:

The smaller controllers that replaced the "Duke" were originally intended for the Japanese market, at the time of course the Xbox was brand new, we all know now how well that idea went (e.g. Japanese gamers don't play FPS, they play turn based console RPGs- no racism intended, this is just the whole real reason the Xbox sells pathetically in Japan with every iteration. Xbox does not have Dragon Quest.). The Duke was literally impossible for the Japanese to use due to the much smaller hands they have in general. However, they eventually changed the controllers here from the "Duke" to the smaller controller intended for the Japanese market after even US gamers (probably with smaller hands) complained too. The "Duke" was actually the original Xbox controller afaik upon it's release. Though not for very long.

Remember, the original Xbox controller and even the 360 controller were all based on the Dreamcast controller, and this is because Microsoft's first foray into the console gaming market was working on the Dreamcast heavily with Sega (since the Dreamcast ran on Windows CE, although not DirectX, probably because of the Dreamcast having Hitachi SH-4 and a NEC PowerVR GPU that were so radically different from Windows 98 SE2 + DX + Glide/Voodoo etc. etc.) So, Microsoft working so heavily with Sega on the Dreamcast gave them some experience (and even inspiration) in developing the first Xbox.

This is even more evident when games on the Dreamcast that didn't come out stateside came out in English on the first Xbox, or games otherwise created or published by Sega: Shenmue 2 being the biggest one. Followed by Panzer Dragoon Orta, Crazy Taxi 3, Jet Set Radio Future (I believe) as well as many others.

For some of the guys in the retro club, this is all preaching to the choir since you guys are probably aware of this stuff (Mega Man at least) but thought it would be helpful to add.

I still have my OG softmodded Xbox loaded with emulators hooked up to my modern HD TV in component (at 720p), connected to my Wifi router in the other room through an ethernet cable so I can transfer "stuff" to the Xbox. I've tried Raspberry Pi (i.e. Retropie) as well as a few other solutions to replace my Xbox emulator box for retro games and have not found anything that comes close in feature set, ease of setup and ease of use. Most likely because the Xbox runs a version of Windows. I have even found complete sets of box art, screenshot previews, and even video previews for the majority of the games I have on the Xbox. As far as I know this stuff is not possible on retropie. Oh and to do all that I had to upgrade the stock 8GB (roundabout) IDE HDD in the Xbox to a much larger one (160GB I believe). If my venerable Xbox ever dies... I have it all backed up but it will take many hours to restore a new one to be anywhere close to how I have my current one set up. Maybe that's the real reason I refuse to replace it (the only other console that comes close emulation wise is the PSP/PS Vita, but those are handhelds). I've tried and absolutely loathe retroarch when I installed it on my Vita. In my mind, nothing comes close to the OG Xbox as an emulator platform, the only thing it chokes on or has problems with is probably N64/PS1 emulation- it will do them both but not with 100% speed, sometimes picky or bad compatibility, etc. Moreso N64 than PS1 (I can play all my Squaresoft PS1 RPGs no problem anyway.) The biggest downside is that the Xbox controller (the smaller one) is pretty bad for most retro games but as long as you aren't trying to beat NES Ninja Gaiden, do speedruns or perfect playthroughs, or play 2D fighters, it is acceptable. I prefer classic SNES era JRPGs and the controller doesn't matter for those. I did, however, get a PS2 -> Xbox converter to be able to use my custom arcade stick (SF style) on the Xbox for MAME, Neo Geo, Capcom CPS beat em ups, etc. It's pretty great.
Edited by neurotix - 9/22/17 at 10:37pm
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It looks like a mini flying saucer. O_o

I feel like someone would tell me "You are holding it wrong." if I picked this up. tongue.gif

When i was a kid i always thought it looked just like the alien fighter ships from independence day lol
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i miss the duke mini so much frown.gif
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