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Poll Results: Which SKU are you interested in purchasing from Silicon Lottery?

 
  • 2% (7)
    8350K 4C/4T/$168
  • 11% (31)
    8600K 6C/6T/$257
  • 85% (227)
    8700K 6C/12T/$359
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post #151 of 793
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Originally Posted by HOPELESSLYFAITH View Post

skylake was the exact same but IIRC kaby lake was a smooth launch right? I didnt buy kaby so wasn't paying attention. The HEDTs were pretty smooth IIRC

The 14-18 core Skylake X are also MIA right now too. I may wind up buying Ryzen simply because Intel has no product to sell me right now.
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post #152 of 793
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The 14-18 core Skylake X are also MIA right now too. I may wind up buying Ryzen simply because Intel has no product to sell me right now.

i was referring to the standard HEDT initial launch line.
post #153 of 793
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i was referring to the standard HEDT initial launch line.

The 7900X and 7920X seemed to have good launch availability. I don't know if the HCC chips are in short supply or just not officially released yet. They went out to reviewers on 9/25.
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The 7900X and 7920X seemed to have good launch availability. I don't know if the HCC chips are in short supply or just not officially released yet. They went out to reviewers on 9/25.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Server market is partially to blame. They pay more and get first dibs.
post #155 of 793
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I got a question about the 'boxed' I7 8700k that comes with a 'delid'. Are these the leftovers that didn't make the cut? As in, these are below average OCing chips?

Pardon me for being skeptical here, but if it sounds too good to be true, it almost always is. $359.99 is MSRP for these chips, and you're delidding these for free? The price is $399.99 on Newegg for a chip that's got no delid. It's a little hard to believe you're buying these chips, delidding them out of the kindness of your heart, just to sell them for MSRP.

Because I'd take a non-K model that might hit a decent OC via BCLK over a pre-binned failure K model that won't hit 5ghz stable.

iirc, that $359.99 price is just placeholder until they've decided on what they'll charge for each 'rarity' of overclock.
post #156 of 793
If they're gonna start binning chips and selling them, then they're gonna have to do something with the below-average chips. It's honest as long as the below average chips are being sold as such.
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post #157 of 793
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If they're gonna start binning chips and selling them, then they're gonna have to do something with the below-average chips. It's honest as long as the below average chips are being sold as such.

he has a contract IIRC where he returns the ones he doesn't want for a cost. Hence why the real duds are nevrer sold on his site.
post #158 of 793
How does this work? I want to buy 8600k but does the processor come already delidded and have thermal paste on it?
post #159 of 793
If I plan to get a 5ghz 8700k, what level of cooling would be needed? I only have experience with air coolers so was considering the NH-D15, but it sounds like air cooling probably won't cut it. I've been reading up a bit on AIOs but I've never used one so I don't know how well they work. Would I need a 280mm AIO or would a 240mm cut it?

Noise is probably my biggest concern, since the more cooling needed the noisier it'll get. There's obviously going to be noise sacrifices just by virtue of running at 5ghz, but I'd still like it to be as quiet as possible while still staying within stable/safe temps
post #160 of 793
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Originally Posted by redcloud0 View Post

If I plan to get a 5ghz 8700k, what level of cooling would be needed? I only have experience with air coolers so was considering the NH-D15, but it sounds like air cooling probably won't cut it. I've been reading up a bit on AIOs but I've never used one so I don't know how well they work. Would I need a 280mm AIO or would a 240mm cut it?

Noise is probably my biggest concern, since the more cooling needed the noisier it'll get. There's obviously going to be noise sacrifices just by virtue of running at 5ghz, but I'd still like it to be as quiet as possible while still staying within stable/safe temps

NH-D15 is comparable to an average AIO. See anandtech and tecchpower up reviews. Delidding is more important than an AIO.

I own the NH-D15, H100i GTX, and the EK Predator 360. They are all fairly comparable in their ability to cool assuming you are under 200 W TDP. Once you break 200W TDP you need a EK Predator 360 or custom loop. Anything sub 200W TDP they are all the same within 5ish C IIRC

most AIOs pumps are too low of volume to support more than 200W TDP. I ran tests on my H100i GTX and the water is 100% saturated at 200W TDP. It isn't the radiator, which is why AIOs that are 240/280/360 all do the same if they use those cheap low GPM pumps. You need the EK Predator 360 AIO or custom loop to pump water fast enough for 200+ W TDP

https://hardforum.com/threads/review-corsair-100i-gtx-with-1650v3-220w-tdp-using-various-high-performance-fans.1879864/

this user tested different fans and found out that its the pump that is the limiting factor not the rad or fans.

AIO would just allow you a more quiet set up but nothing major in terms of temps difference. The H100i GTX vs EK Predator 360 are within a few C difference on a 1650v3 guzzling 170+W TDP. You only need a fancy water ccooler if your using like threadripper or those huge HEDTs.
Edited by HOPELESSLYFAITH - 10/21/17 at 5:04pm
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