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If you could link the article to what your references with photon stuff I would like to read it, never heard of that before.

http://www.eenewseurope.com/news/pyramidal-micro-leds-output-entangled-photons-quantum-computing
https://www.sciencealert.com/researchers-just-developed-the-most-complex-quantum-computer-chip-so-far-out-of-light



The original thought a decade ago was that we would be able to reach photon CPUs within 1-2 decades and quantum computing was still 50+ years off. So light based CPUs would be the stopgap breakthrough between our current computing and quantum. However it seems that quantum computing is making massive strides and is far closer than ever thought, and most of the research on photon CPUs has actually merged with quantum computing. Some of the breakthroughs in the photonic CPU stuff has actually had the purpose of being useful for the quantum CPUs. So now the work being done is to use the photonic processors in quantum entanglement and processing.



This is also an interesting read:
http://news.berkeley.edu/2015/12/23/electronic-photonic-microprocessor-chip/
Edited by EniGma1987 - 9/28/17 at 1:20pm
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transcendence johnny depp reprograms himself
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transcendence johnny depp reprograms himself

I don't know what this means redface.gif
    
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I don't know what this means redface.gif

try this
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Agree. Most likely will take a few months to learn the language as with any programming language, however by the time the juicy stuff starts happening, the language will have moved on and what was learned early on wont be of much use. Still will be interesting to have a play when it is released to see how it is.

Ahahahahahaha A few months? Your not just learning new syntax, your having to undue and base two experience from your brain and learning base three (quantum ternary state) now. There is a huge difference. Not only that, even base two languages or script kiddie languages (interpreted languages ie python, java-script) take years to master correctly to the point you can easily manipulate object orientation.

EDIT: This also is Microsofts "topological qubit" is what will make quantum computing mainstream. If you have cash buy stock now. M$ just took the next leap.
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Ahahahahahaha A few months? Your not just learning new syntax, your having to undue and base two experience from your brain and learning base three (quantum ternary state) now. There is a huge difference. Not only that, even base two languages or script kiddie languages (interpreted languages ie python, java-script) take years to master correctly to the point you can easily manipulate object orientation.

EDIT: This also is Microsofts "topological qubit" is what will make quantum computing mainstream. If you have cash buy stock now. M$ just took the next leap.

Microsoft will finally be worth some money =p

I think you're overestimating effort. If you already understand how to write production code, picking up a new paradigm or language should take you weeks, not years. There is a big difference between obtaining mastery and competency. I may have met a handful of people in my life that qualify as masters of a language or even a framework within a language.

Not to downplay the magnitude of a new paradigm, but saying it will take 1+ years to implement something in this is a bit crazy (to me)

A new user actually stands to be at a benefit as they have less to unlearn - but I would still not recommend cutting your teeth on something so new, with so little support and existing documentation.
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I am hoping Putin's rhetoric on the first country to get AI will rule the world line will start a new race for tech... because well its true what he said.


I thought the general concensus was that the AI will rule the world... All hail Skynet biggrin.gif
Edited by Slomo4shO - 9/29/17 at 1:05pm
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Ahahahahahaha A few months? Your not just learning new syntax, your having to undue and base two experience from your brain and learning base three (quantum ternary state) now. There is a huge difference. Not only that, even base two languages or script kiddie languages (interpreted languages ie python, java-script) take years to master correctly to the point you can easily manipulate object orientation.

EDIT: This also is Microsofts "topological qubit" is what will make quantum computing mainstream. If you have cash buy stock now. M$ just took the next leap.

Quantum ternary state, what are you talking about?

Quantum states are not classical states, don't try to understand them with analogies to classical bits. Even the "0 and 1 at the same time" nonsense is just that.

I also imagine you will not need to understand quantum states when using this toolkit, this is for Visual Studio, a purely classical environment. That is the point of something like this, a way to use quantum computation without needing to understand the underlying physics. This is just like classical computers I suppose, you do not need to understand junctions, gates, instruction sets, or most of how a classical computer actually works to write a program in C++ or Java.
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I also imagine you will not need to understand quantum states when using this toolkit, this is for Visual Studio, a purely classical environment. That is the point of something like this, a way to use quantum computation without needing to understand the underlying physics. This is just like classical computers I suppose, you do not need to understand junctions, gates, instruction sets, or most of how a classical computer actually works to write a program in C++ or Java.

This is, I believe, completely correct. The entire point of making a toolset is to reduce the overhead of basic complexities so you can get more done.
    
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Excellent. We can get the Shor's algorithm programs for brute-forcing RSA and elliptic-curve ready before the technology is even there. biggrin.gif
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