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10+ years?

50 qubits is where a quantum computer becomes faster than any classic computer (at specific problems):
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3176853/hardware/ibms-new-q-program-to-include-a-50-qubit-quantum-computer.html
https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2017/03/ibm-q-50-qubit-quantum-computer/

I was quoting the 10+ year stat from above. The linked article states
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... quantum computing future is, fortunately, still likely to be many years off.

I'm just advocating to learn programming if you are interested in implementing this. You aren't going to learn programming on a bleeding edge quantum simulation with its own form of logic, but you can bend already gained programming knowledge to utilize the quantum paradigm. The tutorials and language are being released as a kind of wrapper for people who already understand programming to begin wrapping their heads around a non binary quantum system and how to create logic for it.

Do as you will, but trust me, you're better served going into that understanding functions, parameters, iteration, etc etc etc.

/drum /soapbox /deadhorse

OT - it is pretty cool that you can debug the quantum logic. I will admit that tickled my fancy a bit.
    
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Fair enough, most quantum programming will probably be exactly the same as classical programming, calling functions is calling functions after all, but it is happening way faster than I had expected.

We might see consumer use of quantum computers (via the cloud) in 5 years! I would have called you crazy if you suggested we might see this in 10 years 5 years ago.
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Fair enough, most quantum programming will probably be exactly the same as classical programming, calling functions is calling functions after all, but it is happening way faster than I had expected.

We might see consumer use of quantum computers (via the cloud) in 5 years! I would have called you crazy if you suggested we might see this in 10 years 5 years ago.

My only argument is that if there are new programming langauges being designed, yes experienced people will still have an edge, but learning the new material parts like quantum gates, well I have seen things happen weirder before, but sometimes the newbie comes to look at things from a unique perspective when learning something over an expert... maybe if I fool around with this toolset in a year or two I will see an opportunity for something small and can get cracking on it... I dunno its w.e

Just liked if I had learned Swift when it first came out, I probably would have had a better chance of getting a job, as most programmers already have their coding certs and jobs... does any of this make sense?
    
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If any new developers wanna learn the magnitude of this start learning ec++ mess with low level. Forget lame scripting languages. Bitshifting, twos compliment, etc then realize the power of this. Amazing what microsoft is doing here. Any news on when IBM chips will hit mainstream?
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Fair enough, most quantum programming will probably be exactly the same as classical programming, calling functions is calling functions after all, but it is happening way faster than I had expected.

We might see consumer use of quantum computers (via the cloud) in 5 years! I would have called you crazy if you suggested we might see this in 10 years 5 years ago.



Im actually surprised we are moving so fast into quantum compuiters and never moved on to photonic computers. Intel and IBM had been researching photon circuits and seemed to be doing breakthroughs, but I guess they just couldnt get the emitters and receivers small enough (into the couple nm size range) to be worthwhile. The interestring thing of photon computer chips would be that unlike silicon transistors with copper interconnects whre you have to route around all the pathways and layers, with photon based circuits the layers could pass tyhrough each other and interact in ways that would allow a massive jump in complextity and capability of computer chips.

I did read a cool article last year or something though that someone found a way to use nanometer size LEDs to output entangled photons for quantum computer use. Would be an interesting hybrid of photonic and quantum computer systems.
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Im actually surprised we are moving so fast into quantum compuiters and never moved on to photonic computers. Intel and IBM had been researching photon circuits and seemed to be doing breakthroughs, but I guess they just couldnt get the emitters and receivers small enough (into the couple nm size range) to be worthwhile. The interestring thing of photon computer chips would be that unlike silicon transistors with copper interconnects whre you have to route around all the pathways and layers, with photon based circuits the layers could pass tyhrough each other and interact in ways that would allow a massive jump in complextity and capability of computer chips.

I did read a cool article last year or something though that someone found a way to use nanometer size LEDs to output entangled photons for quantum computer use. Would be an interesting hybrid of photonic and quantum computer systems.

If you could link the article to what your references with photon stuff I would like to read it, never heard of that before.
    
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I would also be surprised if a quantum computer device would reach first commercialization to the common day PC's.

My bet would be photonic/optical cpu's etc would be the biggest leap to come in decades, first as perhaps some ring like bus and later as a volatile memory cache/buffer mechanism.

It reminded me of this news i saw a while back on guru3d about researchers at MIT with a neat video of the cpu running a (very basic) 3d render image of a pot, it could probably run pong! biggrin.gif

Edited by Bugzzz - 9/27/17 at 9:36pm
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thought you were kidding, yep they made a pot, lol. I am hoping Putin's rhetoric on the first country to get AI will rule the world line will start a new race for tech... because well its true what he said.
    
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You guys are misinterpreting what I said.

I'm talking about learning quantum computing languages provided by microsoft, the topic posted by OP. Not hardware evolution.

All technology moves fast, and it seems a waste to learn something like this now that might be applied in 10+ years. Especially when the fundamentals of that can be learned and applied with current technology. Ask anyone who works in technology now if they'd invest in learning a development platform now, that will be released in 10+ years.

But if it really floats your boat, go for it =)

Agree. Most likely will take a few months to learn the language as with any programming language, however by the time the juicy stuff starts happening, the language will have moved on and what was learned early on wont be of much use. Still will be interesting to have a play when it is released to see how it is.
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