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post #341 of 1401
Looking into it, I guess that VCCIO is pretty high. Is there anything I can/should do about it?
post #342 of 1401
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Originally Posted by RustySpoons View Post

Ok I'm ruling out the Gigabyte unless someone can tell me a reason I really should get it over the others.

Looking at ROG Hero X, AsRock Taichi and Gaming K6

I just bought the Gigabyte Gaming 7.

For me, the ROG Hero X was just too expensive for what I needed. I wouldn't call it a bad deal per-say, but it has quite a few features that I'll never use and the $270 price was excessively high.

The Taichi was an extremely attractive motherboard. It had all of the features I wanted and at $210 was a good price compared to the rest.

And then there was the Gaming 7, which had two options that the Taichi lacked that I found attractive, but at $250 was a bit too expensive.

So I had pretty much decided on the Taichi....

UNTIL......

I found that Micro Center has the Gaming 7 on sale for $199.99.


And that was the deal maker for me. At $250 it was a bit too much for what it offered, but at $200 it's a very good value compared to other boards in the same price range.


So, if you can get the Gigabyte Gaming 7 on sale for $200, it's a great board. However, at it's regular price, it's not such a great deal. Unless you absolutely need all of the features of the Maximus Hero then IMO the Taichi is the most attractive option, giving all of the high end options the vast majority of people would want without feeling like ASRock cut corners to keep the price low.
Edited by moustang - 10/22/17 at 11:52am
post #343 of 1401
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Originally Posted by punked256 View Post

got my hands on ASROCK Z370 Pro4 but it feels so cheap and laggy ...
comparing to a PRO CARBON AC it's really bad
tested some games, FPS is decent but I get a lot of freezes and bumps with same CPU and RAM OC settings
guess low end is really low smile.gif

Check your LLC. You probably aren't getting enough voltage.

Nick Shih said there will be a BIOS update for the entire Asrock Z370 range. However, the Pro4 is low on the priority list.

The Extreme4 , Fatal1ty K6 , Fatal1ty i7 , Fatal1ty ITX , Taichi have had the update

It could be worse, you could have bought an overpriced $170 launch day z370 TUF board only to be told by ASUS that it won't be getting LLC fixed because the VRM hardware won't allow it... tongue.gif
post #344 of 1401
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Originally Posted by moustang View Post

I just bought the Gigabyte Gaming 7.

For me, the ROG Hero X was just too expensive for what I needed. I wouldn't call it a bad deal per-say, but it has quite a few features that I'll never use and the $270 price was excessively high.

The Taichi was an extremely attractive motherboard. It had all of the features I wanted and at $210 was a good price compared to the rest.

And then there was the Gaming 7, which had two options that the Taichi lacked that I found attractive, but at $250 was a bit too expensive.

So I had pretty much decided on the Taichi....

UNTIL......

I found that Micro Center has the Gaming 7 on sale for $199.99.


And that was the deal maker for me. At $250 it was a bit too much for what it offered, but at $200 it's a very good value compared to other boards in the same price range.

Wow that's a good price, I hope you like your board. Do you have the CPU yet?
In the UK The Gaming 7 costs £258 and the Hero is £244 for some reason, but there is a deal on the Gaming 7 where you get a Coolermaster 240 AIO and £40 steam vouchers so works out around £160 for that board
but the AIO and Steam voucher are no interest to me.

The Taichi is £200 and the K6 is £170
I'm building 2x Coffee lake machines, one is ITX And that will be an AsRock board.
Main PC will be a 8700k and HTPC will be 8400.
post #345 of 1401
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Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post

Check your LLC. You probably aren't getting enough voltage.

Nick Shih said there will be a BIOS update for the entire Asrock Z370 range. However, the Pro4 is low on the priority list.

The Extreme4 , Fatal1ty K6 , Fatal1ty i7 , Fatal1ty ITX , Taichi have had the update

It could be worse, you could have bought an overpriced $170 launch day z370 TUF board only to be told by ASUS that it won't be getting LLC fixed because the VRM hardware won't allow it... tongue.gif

on my i3 shows between 0.7 and 1.2 in CPUZ
post #346 of 1401
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Originally Posted by RustySpoons View Post

Wow that's a good price, I hope you like your board. Do you have the CPU yet?
In the UK The Gaming 7 costs £258 and the Hero is £244 for some reason, but there is a deal on the Gaming 7 where you get a Coolermaster 240 AIO and £40 steam vouchers so works out around £160 for that board
but the AIO and Steam voucher are no interest to me.

The Taichi is £200 and the K6 is £170
I'm building 2x Coffee lake machines, one is ITX And that will be an AsRock board.
Main PC will be a 8700k and HTPC will be 8400.

The CPU (8700K) is on backorder with expected shipping date being the 26th. (4 more days). Can't really tell you how good the Gaming 7 is until I get the CPU and at least a week to play with it. Fortunately if it turns out to be bad then I'll just remove it and exchange it for the Taichi. Micro Center is local for me, so it's just a 15 minute drive for the exchange.


I suppose if I really wanted the Coolermaster 240 the Gaming 7 would be appealing in your market. However, I've got no use of it. Still, it could be sold to offset the price somewhat.

But for your market and with your buying options, if it was me I would buy the Taichi. Solid high end board without excessive features that you wouldn't use (Does anyone really need dual Wifi?) and a far more reasonable price.

e-peen is overrated.
post #347 of 1401
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Originally Posted by moustang View Post

The CPU (8700K) is on backorder with expected shipping date being the 26th. (4 more days). Can't really tell you how good the Gaming 7 is until I get the CPU and at least a week to play with it. Fortunately if it turns out to be bad then I'll just remove it and exchange it for the Taichi. Micro Center is local for me, so it's just a 15 minute drive for the exchange.


I suppose if I really wanted the Coolermaster 240 the Gaming 7 would be appealing in your market. However, I've got no use of it. Still, it could be sold to offset the price somewhat.

But for your market and with your buying options, if it was me I would buy the Taichi. Solid high end board without excessive features that you wouldn't use (Does anyone really need dual Wifi?) and a far more reasonable price.

e-peen is overrated.

I don't need the WiFi, i'd never use that. I would use the dual nic though, I get fed up of manually configuring my main nic when I swap cables to hack/modify network devices.
so a 2nd nic will solve that.

1st Nov the date is for my 8700K, already parted my 4790K system out so using a Dell T1700 4790 Workstation till I get this built, haven't ordered RAM yet, the prices are scaring me!
Yeah I pulled the trigger on the Gaming 7 due to all the goodies, but changed my mind as I have 0 use for them so cancelled the order.
Spent the past 4 days reading up on boards, it's driving me made and becoming an obsession frown.gif
There doesn't seem to be one perfect board for me, one minute its the G7, then the Hero X, then the Taichi!
post #348 of 1401
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Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post

Check your LLC. You probably aren't getting enough voltage.

Nick Shih said there will be a BIOS update for the entire Asrock Z370 range. However, the Pro4 is low on the priority list.

The Extreme4 , Fatal1ty K6 , Fatal1ty i7 , Fatal1ty ITX , Taichi have had the update

It could be worse, you could have bought an overpriced $170 launch day z370 TUF board only to be told by ASUS that it won't be getting LLC fixed because the VRM hardware won't allow it... tongue.gif

set it to LLC level 2 and now it's very smooth... wow..., will do some more testing against PRO CARBON
post #349 of 1401
Ok, so which one should I really get??

Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 7
Gigabyte Z370-Aorus-Gaming-WiFi
ASRock Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming K6
MSI Z370 Pro Gaming Carbon AC

ASRock and Gigabyte Gaming Wifi are preferrable since they have two USB 3.0 headers next to each other, like they are on my Gigabyte GA-Z170X Gaming 6
The MSI is preferred because of its use of the PCI-E add in card for WiFi with the Intel 8265 M.2 WiFi module. It has two USB 3.0 headers, but one is at a right angle, and the other isn't.
The Gigabyte Gaming WiFi uses an older 3xxx series Intel WiFi M.2 module, and I could replace that with the 8265.
The ASRock, I would either buy an add in PCI-E card for WiFi, or buy the 8265 M.2 WiFi module and a set of wires and antenna.

Note:
The ram I use is DDR4-3200, the G.Skill Trident Z

Other options are as follows:
Asus ROG Maximus X Hero (AC WiFi seems to be the only version currently available) -- suggested by someone who works in the industry, specifically nVidia, I believe.
Asus ROG STRIX Z370-H Gaming
Edited by Blackspots - 10/22/17 at 2:28pm
post #350 of 1401
So tested again the PRO CARBON and it's just much more smoother, no matter what I do to both cards ( PRO 4 & CARBON )
I'm curious what makes the difference and what's the best card in order to have that smoothness.. APEX maybe?
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