Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Guru3D] GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Launch Date October 26th + Specs and Details
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Guru3D] GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Launch Date October 26th + Specs and Details - Page 7  

post #61 of 332
Instead of this, they should branded a gtx 1080S, slim with lower tdp and small teraflops bonus. What the point buying 1070Ti? Roughly same price than 1080,same tdp, but less teraflops..(9 vs 8,1)
post #62 of 332
Ti for the miners because of GDDR5/quicker ROI and 1080 for the gamers because of GDDR5X and higher price point delaying the ROI????

so they would actually not cannibalize the 1080 Sales because capturing 2 different customer categories.

just my 2p
post #63 of 332
lol no point even for the miners
post #64 of 332
well, the current 1070 with a bit of tweaking look like a pretty good mining performer to me so can you develop a bit?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davealtavilla/2017/06/30/these-are-the-best-gpus-for-ethereum-crypto-mining/#2d1d00462675

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdeA7s9SmRY
post #65 of 332
I don't see the $429 price point being possible with the supposed DRAM shortage. As soon as cards started becoming available on the market, the prices got raised again because of the RAM. Even the 1080 and 1080 TI went up (which I find interesting as they use GDDR5X, which isn't used in many mobile devices the last time I checked).

Until the memory manufacturers get slapped with an anti trust suit like they did in the 90's, I expect affordable GPUs to be dead, especially since there is no competition on the GPU side of things, so it's not like there is any market pressure to change pricing.
Myrna
(4 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Threadripper 1920X Asrock X399 Taichi  Gigabyte Aorus Waterforce WB 1080 TI 4 Way SLI Corsair Vengeance RGB 4x8GB 3466Mhz 
  hide details  
Myrna
(4 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Threadripper 1920X Asrock X399 Taichi  Gigabyte Aorus Waterforce WB 1080 TI 4 Way SLI Corsair Vengeance RGB 4x8GB 3466Mhz 
  hide details  
post #66 of 332
Here is a revised update to the previous chart. Again, for illustration purposes.



What was added:
Pascal Titan X
MSRP/Launch Pricing
Die sizes
Minor correction(s)

Quote:
The diff. between a 1070 to a 1070 TI is a whopping 512 CC. This is using the same GP104 mArch .
That isn't a 1070TI refresh. This is a whole new 1070 next gen card. For a replacement sku. That's a hugh bump while still using GP104!!!!
The diff. between a 1070 to a 1080 is only 640 CC. And that's 2 diff. skus!!!!

The diff. between a 1080ti to a 1080 is 1,024 CC. That's much higher then going from a 980 to 980 TI.

The diff. between a 1070 to a 1080 TI is 1,664CC. The diff. between a 970 and 980 TI is 1,152 CC.
This makes the 1070 a more diminished product going from the 970 to a 1070. Yet people paid full price for it. IMO, this card depreciated before you bought it.

The diff. between a 1070TI and a 1080Ti is 1,152 CC. Hmm, were did we see that CC number before? Oh yeah, it's the diff. between the 970 vs 980 TI!
Edit: It's clear, to me, that the 1070 should have had the same CC difference between the 108o TI as the 970 had between 980 TI.

Edited by EastCoast - 10/2/17 at 10:18am
post #67 of 332
Keep in mind Pascal has 128 CUDA per SMM similar to Maxwell , plus it's about 40% more boost clockspeed on Pascal (~ 2 to 2.1GHz vs 1.5GHz).

Without the clockspeed and color compression techniques I don't think a GTX 1060 6GB would be just short of a GTX 980.

It looks to be
GTX 750 ---> GT 1030 (384 CUDA) ... notice how this should have been on par with GTX 750 Ti
GTX 950 ---> GTX 1050 (640 CUDA)
GTX 960 ---> GTX 1050 Ti (768 CUDA) ... with 4GB VRAM similar to some GTX 960 variants , should be 6 SMM (it is)
GTX 970 ---> GTX 1060 3GB (1152 CUDA) ... similar to the 3.5GB fiasco , should be 10 SMM
GTX 980 ---> GTX 1060 6GB (1280 CUDA) ... a VRAM upgrade but falls short of a GTX 980 , really should be 12 SMM
GTX 980 Ti ---> in between GTX 1070 8GB (1920 CUDA) and GTX 1070 Ti 8GB (2432 CUDA) , really should be 16 SMM
post #68 of 332
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post

Keep in mind Pascal has 128 CUDA per SMM similar to Maxwell , plus it's about 40% more boost clockspeed on Pascal (~ 2 to 2.1GHz vs 1.5GHz).

Without the clockspeed and color compression techniques I don't think a GTX 1060 6GB would be just short of a GTX 980.

It looks to be
GTX 750 ---> GT 1030 (384 CUDA) ... notice how this should have been on par with GTX 750 Ti
GTX 950 ---> GTX 1050 (640 CUDA)
GTX 960 ---> GTX 1050 Ti (768 CUDA) ... with 4GB VRAM similar to some GTX 960 variants , should be 6 SMM (it is)
GTX 970 ---> GTX 1060 3GB (1152 CUDA) ... similar to the 3.5GB fiasco , should be 10 SMM
GTX 980 ---> GTX 1060 6GB (1280 CUDA) ... a VRAM upgrade but falls short of a GTX 980 , really should be 12 SMM
GTX 980 Ti ---> in between GTX 1070 8GB (1920 CUDA) and GTX 1070 Ti 8GB (2432 CUDA) , really should be 16 SMM

Thanks for the update. Although some might not agree about the 980 TI. However since TPU's breaking news the 1070 TI will have 2432 CCs with 152 TMUs!!! That's 8 less then the 1080!
I would like to see the impact of performance when regards to the 980 TI with 96 ROPS vs 1070 TI with 64 ROPS. At the same clock speeds. Sure, there are other implications as you've suggested.
It's still interesting none the less if we've reached moore's law when it comes to ROPS.
post #69 of 332
Update




https://www.techarp.com/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-leaks/#






Therefore I've updated the Nvidia GPU Spec Sheet. For illustrative purposes:


post #70 of 332
https://videocardz.com/73373/rumor-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-to-be-frequency-locked
Quote:
ccording to reports from Eteknix and Expreview, there won’t be a reference model of GTX 1070 Ti. Instead, only custom variants will be available. However, every single one of these will be locked to the same frequency.

The GTX 1070 Ti is said to be running at 1607/1683 MHz clocks (base and boost respectively). The important and rather controversial part of this rumor suggests that this frequency cannot be changed by board partners.

Eteknix:

An industry insider told eTeknix that the GTX 1070 Ti can’t be overclocked. In addition, we’ve been informed that NVIDIA will not release any reference cards and all AIB partner cards will be locked to the same speeds. However, price and aesthetics are expected to differ across partner cards.

Expreview (machine translation):

NVIDIA will be fully unified market GTX 1070 Ti frequency, that is, regardless of which you buy a GTX 1070 Ti their frequency will be fixed at 1607MHz-1683MHz , if you want to be stronger performance only Can be manual overclocking, for non-hardware enthusiasts are not friendly, or graphics card manufacturers have to surprise, such as get a software overclocking to avoid restrictions on NVIDIA.

So as you can see one report clearly says that no overclocking will be possible, while the other suggests that there might be a solution for these restrictions.

Both reports are still quite fresh, so we expect to hear more whispers in the coming days. Of course, we will keep you updated.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Hardware News
This thread is locked  
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Guru3D] GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Launch Date October 26th + Specs and Details