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Did it "finewine" as much as 20-30% (which is what reference 980ti's could OC)? I doubt it.
The argument wasn't about OC potential but no I doubt it is 20-30% at this point.
I know, but people benched reference 980ti's in these tests back then. Had they used non-reference models or OC'd them to their full potential, the picture would have been different; worse for the Fury X.
    
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I know, but people benched reference 980ti's in these tests back then. Had they used non-reference models or OC'd them to their full potential, the picture would have been different; worse for the Fury X.

Why would they test non-reference and OC the card in the first place? Overcloking has not existed before 980 Ti?
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I know, but people benched reference 980ti's in these tests back then. Had they used non-reference models or OC'd them to their full potential, the picture would have been different; worse for the Fury X.

Why would they test non-reference and OC the card in the first place? Overcloking has not existed before 980 Ti?
I thought it was pretty well known that the performance differential between the 980ti's stock clocks and average max oc was bigger than the Fury X's. If "Fine Wine" is an argument for a purchase, so is OC potential (in fact, probably more so than the former).
    
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I thought it was pretty well known that the performance differential between the 980ti's stock clocks and average max oc was bigger than the Fury X's. If "Fine Wine" is an argument for a purchase, so is OC potential (in fact, probably more so than the former).

People bough 980 Ti because of the OC potential since day 1. Apart from that the cards traded blows at stock. Maybe people expected Fury X to age well but with 4GB I do not think that was ever going to happen. Even if you take 1080 Ti FE and compare it to non-reference OCed card you will see big gains.
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Did it "finewine" as much as 20-30% (which is what reference 980ti's could OC)? I doubt it.
I doubt Fury X when already bottlenecked and needing certain optimization for the actual lack of geometry performance could surpass a 980Ti
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My god. It's one game. I don't understand the green goblin reactions at all. I don't see anybody saying that Vega has supplanted the 1080 Ti. I see people saying that Vega is doing very well in this game. Why bring up things like Witcher 3, or how all other games are faster on a 1080 Ti? Everybody knows that already. If you own a 1080 Ti, you own the best gaming card going. There is no need to get insecure over a single game that you're not even going to play.

 

One. Game.

 

Jesus.

     
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My god. It's one game. I don't understand the green goblin reactions at all. I don't see anybody saying that Vega has supplanted the 1080 Ti. I see people saying that Vega is doing very well in this game. Why bring up things like Witcher 3, or how all other games are faster on a 1080 Ti? Everybody knows that already. If you own a 1080 Ti, you own the best gaming card going. There is no need to get insecure over a single game that you're not even going to play.

One. Game.

Jesus.
Didn't you know? AMD is not allowed to have an advantage in anything. Only nVidia is allowed to have the good rep and mind share.
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Didn't you know? AMD is not allowed to have an advantage in anything. Only nVidia is allowed to have the good rep and mind share.
Some people have to justify what they had to pay to get a Nvidia card. A single title in which AMD could be ahead, in some form or another, feels like a personal attack to some.

Though, to be absolutely fair, what they're asking for Vega is also pretty ridiculous.
    
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Some people have to justify what they had to pay to get a Nvidia card. A single title in which AMD could be ahead, in some form or another, feels like a personal attack to some.

Though, to be absolutely fair, what they're asking for Vega is also pretty ridiculous.
Agreed... And the truth is, it's a good thing that this is news... nVidia cards are praised too much and people are too glad to trash AMD, not realizing that if AMD leaves the GPU division behind, you'll be overpaying much more towards nVidia than you are already... Any positive light for AMD is a positive light for the future of gaming... AMD is fighting a losing battle and it is in the best interest of everyone (even those that hate AMD) that AMD does not lose it in the end. AMD is underappreciated, and as long as we keep doing that, we are coming one step closer to where we have to ultimately pay the price, literally and figuratively.
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Agreed... And the truth is, it's a good thing that this is news... nVidia cards are praised too much and people are too glad to trash AMD, not realizing that if AMD leaves the GPU division behind, you'll be overpaying much more towards nVidia than you are already... Any positive light for AMD is a positive light for the future of gaming... AMD is fighting a losing battle and it is in the best interest of everyone (even those that hate AMD) that AMD does not lose it in the end. AMD is underappreciated, and as long as we keep doing that, we are coming one step closer to where we have to ultimately pay the price, literally and figuratively.
if AMD would do that someone wouldnt just buy RTG?
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