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problem is not that it's annoying it's the fact not everyone has access to decent internet. My girlfriend is Egyptian and her internet is barely above dial up and it's like that in most places there.

Gaming in general does not take up a lot of bandwidth. Just doing a control packet every now and then should be even less.

It's irrelevant how many packets the game sends out, paying customers are the ones who suffer.

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Gaming in general does not take up a lot of bandwidth. Just doing a control packet every now and then should be even less.

Try playing any type of MMO with dialup speeds. she cant even do dungeons or raids above 5 man because the lag get so be she times out.
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How is Denuvo still in business?

When will devs realize that there is only a minimal impact to their bottom line from piracy, and that they could lower prices if they stopped slapping this crap DRM onto everything?

I'm pretty sure I read here before that a study showed that piracy actually leads to more sales, as it pretty much the only way gamers can demo products anymore. If its good, we will pay for it. If its crap, it doesn't matter if it was pirated, because most of us wouldn't have paid for your crap games anyway.

That study you are talking about sounds fishy to me and can't be taken as a general rule. For some games it might increase sale for others it might not, it's not a sure deal.
Fifa 2016 and 2017 haven't been cracked and it's hasn't hurt EA's sales at all.
Also Fifa games always had oficial Demos from EA so the game testing argument doesn't apply here.
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Try playing any type of MMO with dialup speeds. she cant even do dungeons or raids above 5 man because the lag get so be she times out.

Actually, i've played Guild Wars 2 on my 28kb/sec connection over the mobile phone at times because my internet was down for hours due to maintenance.
Even in zones where there were ~30 people it was absolutely doable.
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You guys do realize many places they cap internet. When you are at cap, you have no internet.
Small packet or not no internet is no internet
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post #36 of 42
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Actually, i've played Guild Wars 2 on my 28kb/sec connection over the mobile phone at times because my internet was down for hours due to maintenance.
Even in zones where there were ~30 people it was absolutely doable.

Now tack on another bunch of data because some greedy company implemented always online security checks that require constant checks with the DRM server.
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There is no place for DRM in this industry.
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It's time for this cancerware to join Starforce and Securom in DRM hell.

This.

Rockstar is still bundling SecuROM with GTA IV and GTA: EFLC. In 2017. And, of course, also GFWL. And they also rely on Flash. And Internet Explorer. It's a pot-pourri of rotting materials.
 
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Now tack on another bunch of data because some greedy company implemented always online security checks that require constant checks with the DRM server.

You're missing the point. A check to see whether or not you are online is not "a bunch of data". It's barely any data. It's just a control packet that goes back and forth to verify you being online or not.
It's doable on even dialup.
It's pretty much a ping request, which is 32 bytes by default. Let's assume it's 100 times larger then that which i find hard to believe for a verification check with potential encryption on it.
That would mean it's 3.2kb/sec up/down speed. Even a dialup reaches 35-40 on average. It's a joke.

Now if you don't have internet, that's a whole other story.

Also, i'm not saying it would be a good thing to have online verification checks. I just think it would be the only solution to piracy, which isn't really a solution since those few without internet would be screwed rolleyes.gif
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Seriously tho, is anything "crack-free"?

Only if it becomes a complete online game.
Meaning you are buying the game, but everything is stored on their servers. Teams, games, stats, and it requires a login.
That way the game doesn't need a localised protection.

But of course, people will be outraged that they will need an active online connection and that you can't play offline at all.
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