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PCper is usually good esp for a new gpu and TPU has a graph of common clocks/voltage on the overclocking page . . they're there if one looks. thumb.gif

You do understand that I did state most reviewers right? Seems you took it as a personal attack when it was a simple observation. One which you still have not successfully refuted as you rebutted with ad hominem conjecture.

Your snide remarks and not so subtle jabs aside, I still hold firm to the stance that such tactics provide an overall deceptive representation to the public as MOST reviewers will not present the data to consumers. If you have a valid argument, I am happy to hear it. Otherwise, Good Day.
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This should be bigger news than is being presented. Gotta love how a major performance category is now "proprietary information" from Intel. What's next, TDP?
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PCper is usually good esp for a new gpu and TPU has a graph of common clocks/voltage on the overclocking page . . they're there if one looks. thumb.gif

You do understand that I did state most reviewers right? Seems you took it as a personal attack when it was a simple observation. One which you still have not successfully refuted as you rebutted with ad hominem conjecture.

Your snide remarks and not so subtle jabs aside, I still hold firm to the stance that such tactics provide an overall deceptive representation to the public as MOST reviewers will not present the data to consumers. If you have a valid argument, I am happy to hear it. Otherwise, Good Day.
sorry man but you're the one reading too much into it taking things wwaaaayyyy to personal.

cheers.
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post #24 of 63
All I can read in the headline is "Intel no longer wants your money"

Not that I had any plans to buy another Intel product any time soon, but they're making the decision easy.

(Yes after reading more it doesn't seem like this is actually going to affect anyone, just more weird behavior from Intel.)
Edited by ILoveHighDPI - 10/6/17 at 2:33pm
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I don't get it.Does that mean we have random result from various Reviews? specially 8700K ?

We should not see random results. We should see results that vary, but all of the variance should fall within the range of possible turbo settings. (As long as Intel is sending out samples that were not binned and set aside for reviewers, that is.)

It will be interesting to see whether review samples actually perform the same way that off-the-shelf samples do. Hopefully a couple of the review sites will be able to make that comparison on the same test rigs.

It's a question of "accuracy" versus "precision". If all the review samples end up with similar results, then the collective results can be termed "precise". But if reviewers got above-average CPUs to test with, then the results are precisely inaccurate. Testing of off-the-shelf processors will be needed before the accuracy of the sample results can be determined.
    
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It's to avoid negative press covfefe biggrin.gif
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post #27 of 63
Here, buy this cpu that runs around 3-5ghz*.



*Frequencies are subject to change depending on components, load, bios updates, climate, gravity and coolers.
Edited by Marios145 - 10/6/17 at 7:20pm
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Here, buy this cpu that runs around 3-5ghz*.

*Frequencies are subject to change depending on components, load, bios updates, climate, gravity and coolers.


but isn't that the real would case?

Personally it dopant matter either way. Its not like the per core turbo was ever set in stone and turbo boost always did better than advertised in my experience. Between that and the motherboard over volt settings at default, the chips just behave the way it wants regardless what it was advertised to do.
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This shouldnt be relevant to those who OCed their CPU and simply set all 6 cores clock to 5GHz fixed right? rolleyes.gif
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This shouldnt be relevant to those who OCed their CPU and simply set all 6 cores clock to 5GHz fixed right? rolleyes.gif

If they don't need to guarantee Multi-Core turbo clocks within CPUs under the same SKU's they can:

Bin a i7-8700K that can stable MT turbo at the base clock or just slightly above it.

Bin a i7-8700 that can stable MT turbo at the base clock or just slightly above it.

Bin a i5-8400 that can stable MT turbo at the base clock or just slightly above it.


If anything, this only makes Intel richer as they can bin and use that were previously not up to the task as good to go.

Thinking Intel will not take advantage out of it in the binning process is somehow:notontopi

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Edited by virpz - 10/7/17 at 4:11am
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