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post #21 of 61
Talk about getting reference Vega 10 cards out in reasonable supply, custom vega cards(It's already mid october and no news), Vega Nano Vega 11, 20 out first before you talk about Navi, AMD.

Seems like they're always talking and bigging themselves one step ahead of what they can actually deliver. That was what happened for Vega. Poor Volta= Late pascal tier Vega.

You know a product isn't good when MSI and Gigabyte are not gonna make custom cards, yet come up with the 101st variant of the 1080Ti which is a year old but still predicted to deliver more and sell more than Vega will ever sell.

Vega is a money sink and just like the original fury, very little improvements are going to be seen. Heck, they didn't get much improvements over a 1080 for LC reference and we're talking air here. Overpriced overhyped, delayed and that's what will happened for Navi.
post #22 of 61
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Talk about getting reference Vega 10 cards out in reasonable supply, custom vega cards(It's already mid october and no news), Vega Nano Vega 11, 20 out first before you talk about Navi, AMD.

Seems like they're always talking and bigging themselves one step ahead of what they can actually deliver. That was what happened for Vega. Poor Volta= Late pascal tier Vega.

You know a product isn't good when MSI and Gigabyte are not gonna make custom cards, yet come up with the 101st variant of the 1080Ti which is a year old but still predicted to deliver more and sell more than Vega will ever sell.

Vega is a money sink and just like the original fury, very little improvements are going to be seen. Heck, they didn't get much improvements over a 1080 for LC reference and we're talking air here. Overpriced overhyped, delayed and that's what will happened for Navi.

Gz on your first post. Vega might be delayed and undersupplied, but we're already seeing significant driver improvements even as loads of features aren't being utilized. I'd ask why you're assigning false flaws to a product that has plenty of real ones, but I already know the answer.
post #23 of 61
Meanwhile they can barely get Polaris to shops and Vega is still MIA.
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Meanwhile they can barely get Polaris to shops and Vega is still MIA.

Really? Where are you shopping? https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709 601301599
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post #25 of 61
Wow, it's down to 570 dollars now. Just 70 more dollars to go until MSRP, and at that point I plan to pick one up. It's a good card at 500. Not buying it at 600 or 700.
post #26 of 61
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You know a product isn't good when MSI and Gigabyte are not gonna make custom cards

Isn't that aready disproven, at least for Gigabyte?
post #27 of 61
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Isn't that aready disproven, at least for Gigabyte?

Ho hum.. We're nearing the end of mid october and still nothing. We shall see. biggrin.gif Even AMD only board makers are silent on this, which should tell you pretty much all we need to know. Even if they were going to be released, it'd be far into 2018 given the lack of supply making the rounds. Only Asus has something and that's even nowhere to be seen despite being hyped for a september release.

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Gz on your first post. Vega might be delayed and undersupplied, but we're already seeing significant driver improvements even as loads of features aren't being utilized. I'd ask why you're assigning false flaws to a product that has plenty of real ones, but I already know the answer.

Driver improvements that bring very little and outmatched still by the 1080/1080Ti recent driver improvements to Forza. Fake flaws? I don't know what alternative news have you been reading but newsflash, it is still overpriced, delayed(custom Vega 10, Nano, 11, 20) nowhere to be seen, and underperforms relative to the 1080Ti, which is a year old graphics card. All of these are true. So, whatever you're smoking, i'd love to have 'em.

I already know the answer as to why you're defending them pretty well either way.
post #28 of 61
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Meanwhile they can barely get Polaris to shops and Vega is still MIA.

It could be worse,Vega could be retailing for a good $200 more than a 1080.

https://www.facebook.com/PCThemes/posts/1324843174304218


Polaris even in its death throes is still vastly overpriced and supply is not guaranteed.
post #29 of 61
VEGA is good for mining (not ethereum but monero when undervolted to 900mV or so) and machine learning.

It's not a gaming card.

(I had been trying to figure out what was causing the VEGA 56 and VEGA 64 cards to stay so high priced above MSRP.)
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VEGA is good for mining (not ethereum but monero when undervolted to 900mV or so) and machine learning.

It's not a gaming card.

(I had been trying to figure out what was causing the VEGA 56 and VEGA 64 cards to stay so high priced above MSRP.)

Well it still is overpriced and consumes more so i doubt thats the case. Its bad even at its strongest advantage The reason why prices sre so high is the lack of HBM and Vega supply to go around with and that it costs retailers too much. Of course, factoring demand too but the first two reasons are probably the biggest. If demand were truly the case behind the shortages board makers would be rushing to put out custom cards. But you make manufacturers unwilling to make them like MSI. That should tell you something

If it's not a gaming card then what does the RX nomeclature stand for? Just passing it off as not a gaming card is a pretty poor excuse imo.
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