Hello all. Been out of the loop for a while, so I'm back to catch up. A lot of new stuff such as Vega and Ryzen and all that noise.
Got my girlfriend into World of Warcraft a few months back. She's playing on a budget laptop she used mostly for college and YouTube vidoes. Her fps were fine in earlier zones, since the textures were so simple. But now we've finally hit the level cap, and are trying to raid together. She's getting between 2-5 fps in pretty much all raids, so she's about to give up on raiding all together. Only other game she really plays is Sims 4. Raiding in Legion, (current expansion) is rather CPU intense. I realize that back in the day WoW, could run on a "toaster", but that is not the case anymore. Even my computer dips between 25-30 fps in the new areas in Legion.
I've heard Intel had better efficiency on higher clock rates, but again I've been out of the loop, so things might have changed. I'm not really biased towards either, since I've owned both in the past. I already have a 1080p 24' LED for her to use.
So I'm a tad over budget. What I'm trying to do is cut costs where necessary. Not sure if she needs to overclock, but raids do get CPU intense. If anything, something around a $700-800 grand total would be awesome. Any help would be much appreciated. Will update thread throughout the week. Thanks!
You are only playing WoW on this? Or is it going to be the main focus?
EDIT: Is it just me or does that case not have 5.5in bay?
Here is a part list I made. It's pretty much the same thing, but is missing the drive and case. You've got ~$200 to work with. Swapped RAM a little since you've linked some slow RAM, cheaper PSU, and cheaper and same size HDD from same brand, and also downsized GPU a little.
Well she did mention she occasionally dabbles with the Left for Dead franchise, and Battleblock Theater. So I guess the main focus would be 25-man raids in WoW.
Just buy a second hand computer from your local listings (gumtree, craigslist, whatever). Should be able to pick up a rig more than capable for $500 or less,
just seems a waste to spend $1000 on a wow rig, unless you plan on getting her into other games down the track.
I've made a few edits to my post above. I don't know if they were showing when you were quoting me.
L4D2 isn't too demanding, neither is Battleblock Theater. We don't need to worry about too much GPU performance.
You are only playing WoW on this? Or is it going to be the main focus?
EDIT: Is it just me or does that case not have 5.5in bay?
Here is a part list I made. It's pretty much the same thing, but is missing the drive and case. You've got ~$200 to work with. Swapped RAM a little since you've linked some slow RAM, cheaper PSU, and cheaper and same size HDD from same brand, and also downsized GPU a little.
The 8350K is a cheaper version of the 7600K as long as clocks are the same. Intel is still the 1080p gaming king compared to Ryzen. However I feel neither is a bad choice. And if you can't find a purple case then maybe look into a rgb motherboard and some rgb lighting.
The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo is ancient and the Cryorig H7 has pretty much replaced it as the best budget CPU cooler so ditch the 212 Evo
As for the Seasonic S12II that series uses the old outdated group regulation sceme and the M12II is very well know for being loud, if you are looking for a buget PSU the Corsair CX550 is an option
Or if you can spend more there is new Seasonic Focus Plus series
And last dont pick a GPU from Gigbayte if you are on a budget as the Windforce cooler on the cheaper Gigabyte card is rubbish
Built a low budget system for my nephew with a Gigabyte GPU with a Windforce cooler and the card would overheat and thermal throttle because the cooler is rubbish and the fan profile is so relaxed that its almost useless
Had to download a new VBIOS from Gigabyte and make a custom fan profile just so the damm card would not thermal throttle
That in turn just made the card loud instead so pick your posion
As for the Seasonic S12II that series uses the old outdated group regulation sceme and the M12II is very well know for being loud, if you are looking for a buget PSU the Corsair CX550 is an option
Or if you can spend more there is new Seasonic Focus Plus series
I thought that even though it was group regulated, it was still an excellent unit. Also, for the CX550, I saw there is a "(2017)" note on PCPartPicker. I'm assuming that one, correct?
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And last dont pick a GPU from Gigbayte if you are on a budget as the Windforce cooler on the cheaper Gigabyte card is rubbish
Built a low budget system for my nephew with a Gigabyte GPU with a Windforce cooler and the card would overheat and thermal throttle because the cooler is rubbish and the fan profile is so relaxed that its almost useless
Had to download a new VBIOS from Gigabyte and make a custom fan profile just so the damm card would not thermal throttle
That in turn just made the card loud instead so pick your posion
Interesting. I am extremely satisfied with my Z97X Gaming 5 board and my Windforce 1070. Either way, there are plenty of other options for him. I think there were two MSI at the same price and an EVGA for ~$1 cheaper.
Here's my version: what I changed, a beter value, newer CPU; Higher speed memory; 250GB SSD instead of a HDD, Faster 6GB GTX1060 with a much better cooler; Better PSU. Stuck with the pretty outdated 212 EVO, because its only $20. Replaced teh cooler with the better performing and better looking Cryorig H7.
How big is WoW again? I remember at one point needing 60GB+ for it at one point. Is a 250GB storage drive going to be enough? 225GB (?) after NTSF format, ~80GB for Windows + updates, drivers, software, 12.7GB for L4D2 (my Steam install size), however much WoW is... I'm not sure it's enough.
How big is WoW again? I remember at one point needing 60GB+ for it at one point. Is a 250GB storage drive going to be enough? 225GB (?) after NTSF format, ~80GB for Windows + updates, drivers, software, 12.7GB for L4D2 (my Steam install size), however much WoW is... I'm not sure it's enough.
U should take a look at the intel 8400, if I were you I wouldnot go lower than the 1060 be it 3GB or 6GB variant, lower cards are pretty much potatoes and not worth anything.
Just look at the cards below 1060, almost cost as much but are utterly pointless and pretty much unsusable, like who buys 1050ti to save 50$ and get half the frames ?
U should take a look at the intel 8400, if I were you I wouldnot go lower than the 1060 be it 3GB or 6GB variant, lower cards are pretty much potatoes and not worth anything.
Just look at the cards below 1060, almost cost as much but are utterly pointless and pretty much unsusable, like who buys 1050ti to save 50$ and get half the frames ?
That is also playing games that require a beefy GPU. The games that the rig will be running will only need a small amount of GPU grunt. They won't get half frames from going from a 1060 to a 1050Ti. And if that is $50 they don't have to spend or they can use it elsewhere, it would be a better choice in this rig.
No it`s not, as he said wow is not what it was, u cant use a 700mhz duron and geforce 2 to run it like me and maybe you did in 2005.
And once people realise 60hz monitors are pointless and upgrade to 144hz they will be happy they bought the 1060, not some potato.
Do not buy 8350K, just get the i5 8400 (no OC but best bang/buck for gaming probably) as minimum or R5 1600 (this one can be OCed on B350 and X370 as all other Ryzen CPUs can be).
GPU wise, do not touch anything with less than 6GB VRAM. That will pretty much give you the necessary performance as well. 470/570 8GB is the lowest I would go but 1060 6GB is probably easier to find and buy.
Do not buy 8350K, just get the i5 8400 (no OC but best bang/buck for gaming probably) as minimum or R5 1600 (this one can be OCed on B350 and X370 as all other Ryzen CPUs can be).
GPU wise, do not touch anything with less than 6GB VRAM. That will pretty much give you the necessary performance as well. 470/570 8GB is the lowest I would go but 1060 6GB is probably easier to find and buy.
Did WoW start using 6 cores since Legion? I doubt it does tbh, for any other gaming system I would agree on not getting the 8350K, but iirc WoW favors higher clocked quad cores and Nvidia cards. So a 8350K would be preferable for this system since its clocked higher and can even be overclocked.
Did WoW start using 6 cores since Legion? I doubt it does tbh, for any other gaming system I would agree on not getting the 8350K, but iirc WoW favors higher clocked quad cores and Nvidia cards. So a 8350K would be preferable for this system since its clocked higher and can even be overclocked.
even if it didn't you can shift core allocation and remove it from core 0~1, this would make OS API to work smoother with a lot more room to spare.
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