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Two words for you: corporate personhood.

FTFY
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This is freaky but what really kills me is that 22 hours after your post, only 4 people bothered to reply. No one even cares. What the hell is happening?!

My question is - what do you expect in the replies?

Your own reply only states that others haven't.

If there's something to share, share it - otherwise its likely that everyone else is in the same boat.
    
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FTFY

They're the same thing. tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by Mrip541 View Post

This is freaky but what really kills me is that 22 hours after your post, only 4 people bothered to reply. No one even cares. What the hell is happening?!

I don't believe that is the case at all. This is obviously an extremely important topic.

It's just... I've seen a lot of threads similar to this one lately, and unfortunately, they always seem to devolve in to the same circular arguments that we see over and over again.

I, like many others, don't have a solution for this problem, and feel to keep quiet, rather than attempt to get caught up in the mindless bickering.

I'll second that.

Yeah, not much to do here. Just watch yourself I guess and keep reporting, rally around an organization who has a gameplan to address this. AKA we should be using the legislative branch in theory to advocate policies we the people want.
Edited by FlashFir - 10/19/17 at 1:21am
post #15 of 25
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This is freaky but what really kills me is that 22 hours after your post, only 4 people bothered to reply. No one even cares. What the hell is happening?!

Speaking for myself: What prevents my commentary on these issues is fear of being misunderstood and attacked, not a lack of caring about such things.
Some of us just keep to ourselves on such issues since it's antithetical to many's worldview (especially in the med, sci, & tech communities) to talk about the how's and why's we're now here. Ends up being more trouble than it's worth.

Regardless, I'm happy to see just how wrong things are brought into the light for as many to see as possible.
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Pay money to sell yourself out to these corporates. Nek min they get hacked and your data is now in public hands
post #17 of 25
In the past, when such topic was discussed (say, M$ and their data collection), most people have been like "I have nothing to hide".
I could easily sort myself to that group, because in theory, I really do have nothing serious to hide.
But I still don't want any sort of data shared anywhere else besides my virtual target.
But every time I get to read such "news", I am getting more and more annoyed angrysmiley.gif

Because even if we would want to get some action against this practice, there will be prevalent mass of "nothing to hide" people opposing "nothing to hide and still don't want to share anything" people.

By the way, let me get this straight - every time somebody transferred data over AT&T network, it was mined for meta data and then sold somewhere else ?
Is it like that if I ever want to get at least some level of privacy, I need to use heavily encrypted end-to-end VPN ?
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Because even if we would want to get some action against this practice, there will be prevalent mass of "nothing to hide" people opposing "nothing to hide and still don't want to share anything" people.

Welcome to the frustration of society.
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Is it like that if I ever want to get at least some level of privacy, I need to use heavily encrypted end-to-end VPN ?

Still have to trust your VPN provider. Encryption though - that's probably the answer. We've got too much power and too little responsibility I'm afraid.
    
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In the past, when such topic was discussed (say, M$ and their data collection), most people have been like "I have nothing to hide".
I could easily sort myself to that group, because in theory, I really do have nothing serious to hide.

Not responding to you in particular, but the general idea of 'nothing to hide'.

People have plenty of stuff to hide, and rightly so. Private conversations, their nudity, medical conditions or data that imply them (like location data to a psychiatrist office), pieces of their history likely to be used as security questions for account recovery, and anything else generally thought of as private. Not only is it invasive to collect this data, we can't even trust companies who don't intend to share it to keep it safe from being stolen.

The only way to keep anything private/secret is to never share or document it in the first place.
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In the past, when such topic was discussed (say, M$ and their data collection), most people have been like "I have nothing to hide".
I could easily sort myself to that group, because in theory, I really do have nothing serious to hide.
But I still don't want any sort of data shared anywhere else besides my virtual target.
But every time I get to read such "news", I am getting more and more annoyed angrysmiley.gif

Because even if we would want to get some action against this practice, there will be prevalent mass of "nothing to hide" people opposing "nothing to hide and still don't want to share anything" people.

By the way, let me get this straight - every time somebody transferred data over AT&T network, it was mined for meta data and then sold somewhere else ?
Is it like that if I ever want to get at least some level of privacy, I need to use heavily encrypted end-to-end VPN ?

And still the "nothing to hide" argument is one of the most narrow minded and egoistical ones to make in this context. (Not directed at you personally, but at the argument that so many still try to make)

In every society there are people who have something to hide for good reason, like f.e. lawyers, journalists, doctors etc.
The consequences on society of the "nothing to hide" mindset are not entirely foreseeable and still we head into it blindly without even thinking about it.

Taking our freedom back will be much harder than trying to preserve what's left of it.
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