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"In what some would call a surprise announcement, Microsoft has unveiled the much anticipated Surface Book 2, 2 in 1 laptop. With content creators, designers, and PC gamers requiring more and more horsepower for demanding tasks, the two-year-old Surface book could be perceived as a bit long in the tooth. And while the Surface Book is a solid 2 in 1, people still wanted more out of their device. Microsoft says the Surface Book 2, “removes the barrier between the desktop and the laptop by giving mobile professionals the power of a desktop, the versatility of a tablet, and the freedom of a light and thin laptop…”

The appearance of the SB2 compared to the original looks to be identical with its silver magnesium case and the familiar Muscle Wire hinge making its way forward as well. When closed, due to the special hinge, it looks like a book closed over a pencil as there as a gap towards the hinge side which shrinks to nothing as it nears the opposite end. The keyboard also looks the same and uses LED backlit keys for ease of use in low light situations. Ports on the outside consist of two USB 3.0 (5 Gbps) Type-A, and one USB Type-C. It also has a UHS-II SDXC card reader and for audio a 3.5mm headphone jack.

The Surface Book 2 will come in two main options; either the 13.5”, 3000 x 2000 PixelSense display (found in the original SB), or now in a 15” 3240 x 2160 Pixelsense Display. Both options are 10-point multi-touch capacitive screens and still use a 3:2 ratio instead of the more popular 16:9. The monitor supports the Surface Pen and Surface Dial on-screen support. Microsoft worked with Adobe for increase integration between the Surface Book 2 and Adobe Creative Cloud with new Surface Dial functionality in Photoshop letting users to more easily access and change your most frequent brush settings.

The latest SB2 is now powered by Intel’s 8th Generation Core processors and offer NVIDIA GTX 1050 2GB in the 13.5" model, or GTX 1060 6GB discrete graphics options in the larger 15" version. The graphics upgrades are a significant update from the original which shipped with a GT 940MX, but the new models appear to follow the thermal design of Performance Base version of the Surface Book which shipped with a GTX 965M as a mid-cycle upgrade. If a discrete video card isn’t necessary, the CPUs had Intel HD/UHD Graphics 620 integrated GPUs. With the use of more powerful discrete GPUs, 1080p PC gaming at 60 FPS is possible according to Microsoft. With this, the SB2 is ready for Windows Mixed Reality applications using a compatible headset and controller...."


https://www.anandtech.com/show/11938/microsoft-introduces-surface-book-2
post #2 of 32
Expensive as usual and I'm glad to hear they've beefed up the hinge/lock system (mentioned elsewhere). It was the main weak point imo.
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No Ryzen APU? Sucks. Would be a huge win for AMD.
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What made me the happiest is their i7 version actually has four cores and eight threads.... Such a pity that there's only a maximum of 16GB of memory though.
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Well, the 15" model will legitimately be able to game. Damn. These are really solid upgrades from the originals. I want one.

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Really would like the 15 inch base model to replace my Surface Pro 4, but that price though.
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I will not buy another Laptop unless it has Ryzen.
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The price is very prohibitive. Cost of entry being $1500 for what I can only guess is an i5-7300u, 8GB ram and a 256GB SSD is pretty steep. I also thought right away its odd they dont do an 8th gen i5, but realized if they did it would drastically chew into their i7/higher tier sales since the 8th gen i5 is also 4c/8t with slower frequencies but still very respectable. I also noticed no thunderbolt, as they likely dont want people getting it without GPU and just using thunderbolt for an external GPU box.

Not sure who buys these things when there are much better options from the competition. You can easily get a 13" ultrabook with i7-8550U, 16GB ram (DDR4), 500GB SSD (nvme pcie) starting at about 1k. Add a QHD or 4k screen to that and it gets you to about the entry level price of the SB2.

I have a Surface Pro 3 (I won, didnt buy) and to be honest I like it, as a tablet. Its kind of weak as a laptop and the flappy keyboard is hard to use especially on my lap. Having said that, I can see the appeal of the SB/SB2 as a device, physically. Its the best of both worlds, a functional laptop and a tablet...but again there is so much out there that does the same or more for much less.
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The price is very prohibitive. Cost of entry being $1500 for what I can only guess is an i5-7300u, 8GB ram and a 256GB SSD is pretty steep. I also thought right away its odd they dont do an 8th gen i5, but realized if they did it would drastically chew into their i7/higher tier sales since the 8th gen i5 is also 4c/8t with slower frequencies but still very respectable. I also noticed no thunderbolt, as they likely dont want people getting it without GPU and just using thunderbolt for an external GPU box.

Not sure who buys these things when there are much better options from the competition. You can easily get a 13" ultrabook with i7-8550U, 16GB ram (DDR4), 500GB SSD (nvme pcie) starting at about 1k. Add a QHD or 4k screen to that and it gets you to about the entry level price of the SB2.

I have a Surface Pro 3 (I won, didnt buy) and to be honest I like it, as a tablet. Its kind of weak as a laptop and the flappy keyboard is hard to use especially on my lap. Having said that, I can see the appeal of the SB/SB2 as a device, physically. Its the best of both worlds, a functional laptop and a tablet...but again there is so much out there that does the same or more for much less.

Yes but SB2 more more than just an Ultrabook. Its a Windows 10 reference device. Think of it like Pixel from Google or iPhone/ Macbook from Apple. I love my SP3. Would love to own 15" SB2 but price is a bit too high without a full time job.
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Yes but SB2 more more than just an Ultrabook. Its a Windows 10 reference device. Think of it like Pixel from Google or iPhone/ Macbook from Apple. I love my SP3. Would love to own 15" SB2 but price is a bit too high without a full time job.

The difference is that with those I am getting the OS untouched, and features other devices dont have. Whats the Surface line give that something else cant? I can (and always do) wipe OEM installs and clean install Windows myself. So I get everything that Windows 10 has to offer without the reference device price.
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