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post #21 of 154
No SSDs and HDDs are not cheap as dirt. They cost quite the same for years not dropping anywhere. A 4TB drive is still quite costy and 256GB SSD too. And 4TB nowadays is like nothing.
The compact tool has been in Windows since 2k/Xp.
post #22 of 154
The only benefit i can see here is if you're running a small storage device like an SSD and want to have more games installed on it than would otherwise be possible. Still you could possibly run into issues if you're really on the edge of available free space and whatever you're playing cant continue because decompressing resources it needs would put you over storage limits.

Its a neat utility, but with hard drives being as cheap as they are you can grab a 1TB HDD for $50 + a 32GB stick of Optane memory for $80 and have SSD level speeds and system responsiveness for the cost of $130, $200 less than a 1TB 850 EVO.

EDIT: Also consider how you would be affecting SSDs endurance with on the fly compression using up write cycles.

From TomsHardware: "There's one more point to consider, though. With information being compressed on the fly, you're consuming more of an SSD's available write cycles than if you were writing the files uncompressed. This could have negative implications on the drive's endurance. Although we're not necessarily concerned about larger SSDs, models with less capacity inherently have lower endurance ratings. Thus, NTFS compression could conceivably affect their useful lives more significantly. "

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-ntfs-compression,3073-11.html
Edited by Malinkadink - 10/17/17 at 2:47pm
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I just used it on one of my game folders. I benched GTA V and Shadow of Mordor (only two games I have installed that have a benchmark utility) before and after. No difference in fps! Actually, SoM average was higher by 3fps, but I'm sure that's within margin of error.

Edit: I have only SSDs in my system (1.75TB) and this thing hust saved me ~50GB, so I'll take it even if there would be a small performance hit. Also, didn't notice longer loading times, but then again I didn't use a stopwatch.

Edit 2: Compressed other game folders and the result is the same, no drop in fps or longer loading times. Another 60GB saved!!
Edited by GetToTheChopaa - 10/17/17 at 3:45pm
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post #24 of 154
Transparent compression generally doesn't hurt performance. To the contrary, actually. Transparent compression can often yield a performance increase for large block accesses since in most situations the system has more CPU time available to it than disk time. If your files have a 0.8 compression ratio on disk and your disk gives you 100 MB/s but your CPU is relatively unloaded and can decompress 1000 MB/s, you'll see 125 MB/s of IO.

And no, normal apps don't complain that it's stored on the physical medium differently because all logical accesses get the decompressed version.
post #25 of 154
Anyone have access to the ms store folder where games download to so they can try this out?
post #26 of 154
Why isn't this something that can be done before you download a freaking game, and then have the choice to decompress it or leave it....
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post #27 of 154
very interesting. I have a 1TB SSD and a 1TB WD Black, both being used as game drives. Wonder if i could fit everything on one drive with this.. Also i have a guitar hero pc clone (appropriately named Clone Hero) that has nearly 100GB of tracks. I'll have to check this out when i get home and see how it does.
post #28 of 154
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Originally Posted by Ultracarpet View Post

Why isn't this something that can be done before you download a freaking game, and then have the choice to decompress it or leave it....
It is, just set NTFS compression for the whole drive. This utility is only a GUI for M$ compact.exe.

These compressions are meant for executables and text files, any compressed files such as pictures, movies, songs, textures, compressed game binaries, etc. see no worthwhile compression be it with NTFS, compact.exe or 7zip/RAR/ARC/any-brutal-compressor you may find.

Saved something like 45MB from 7GB Starcraft. Just decompressed it back, not worth it, CPU usage very minimal for both compression and decompression. Will try with 7 zip but that will take a while, just to see how much a proper compression can do.
170MB with 7z, yeah pretty much uncompressible.
Edited by JackCY - 10/17/17 at 4:51pm
post #29 of 154
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It is, just set NTFS compression for the whole drive. This utility is only a GUI for M$ compact.exe.

These compressions are meant for executables and text files, any compressed files such as pictures, movies, songs, textures, compressed game binaries, etc. see no worthwhile compression be it with NTFS, compact.exe or 7zip/RAR/ARC/any-brutal-compressor you may find.

Saved something like 45MB from 7GB Starcraft. Just decompressed it back, not worth it, CPU usage very minimal for both compression and decompression. Will try with 7 zip but that will take a while, just to see how much a proper compression can do.

i think he intended it to mean "before" downloading, meaning download it in a compressed state to save bandwidth and time.
post #30 of 154
Yeah that would need to be done by the server providing data, such as steam sending it compressed, which if they are not then Valve is even more stupid than I thought.
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