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So it seems like opinions are mixed with 140 vs 120. I guess I can be pragmatic and go 280 and 360. I would I would rather have 3x140s on exhaust and 120x3 on intake to keep negative pressure
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post #12 of 22
It really comes down to what fans and how much you are willing to spend,

120mm you can get fans in 2 packs that don't suck for like $29-33 for a set of 2, or you can go the cheaper route and get swiftech 120mm pwm helix fans for $6 a piece, the cheapest you can get good 140mm fans is $17-20, not taking lighting into account.

That's what it really comes down to when choosing between 120 and 140.
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I'm running a 6700k oc to 4.4 and a single 1080 in a Fractal Design Define S (Drogon in sig). I've got two HW labs GTS nemesis 360s with Noiseblocker eloops pwm version all monitored and contolled through an Aquaero 6 LT. GPU is overclocked as well and my temps whilst gaming average 44-46 with occasional spikes to 47 or 48. Ambient temp is ususally around 24C. That said, the case, the airflow you can generate and your radiator capacity coupled with your ambient temps will determine the how well your loop performs. Buy high static pressure fans like NBs or EK vardars. I believe even the Corsair ML series and the Phanteks MPs are decent as well. I wouldn't go any less than the 240+360 combo and would highly recommend a D5 pump. They're so quiet.

Also, if the budget allows, a custom water-cooled loop controlled via an Aquacomputer Aquaero is a beautiful thing. I base my fan curves off the temp of the coolant. Whilst internet browsing, the fans spin around 15% and under gaming load they approach 40%. The functionality of the Aquaero is vast. Sorry if I sound like a fanboy (perhaps I am) but the additional cost to your system is fractional compared to the benefits. Just my two pennies.
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post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by somebadlemonade View Post

And the d5 is the go to pump since it's quieter and doesn't get as hot running full tilt in a low restriction loop like a DDC does.

You need to add a heatsink to a DDC for it to not kill itself running full tilt in a low restriction loop so it isn't any cheaper and since the DDC is noiser it's not really great pump for setups like yours.

Well this is so untrue. I have a DDC pump without a heatsink in a loop similar to OP's (5820K @4.5ghz and gtx 1080) and it never gets audible or hot. Of course, you are not going to run it anywhere close to its top speed in such, relatively low restriction and simple loop.
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i run an i7 7800-x overclocked to 4.7ghz and gtx 1080ti at 2050mhz in a single loop with an ek d5 pwm pump and ek 360mmx60mm radiator and my load temps are about ~50c under load on both cpu and gpu, it was about the same when i had a 7700k at 4.8 and a gtx 1080 at 2075mhz. btw 1080ti block is reference bitspower block and cpu block is an ek x299 monoblock for gigabyte boards. hope this helps
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post #16 of 22
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Well this is so untrue. I have a DDC pump without a heatsink in a loop similar to OP's (5820K @4.5ghz and gtx 1080) and it never gets audible or hot. Of course, you are not going to run it anywhere close to its top speed in such, relatively low restriction and simple loop.

Not all DDC pumps are pwm. . . Most now says are and did you read the post? Running full speed they get hot with a low restriction loop. In what way is it wrong or untrue? When you said the same thing?
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post #17 of 22
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Not all DDC pumps are pwm. . . Most now says are and did you read the post? Running full speed they get hot with a low restriction loop. In what way is it wrong or untrue? When you said the same thing?
Why even mention such irrelevant thing? No one is gonna drive that pump full power so why even mention it?!
post #18 of 22
With a newbie you should always be specific leave nothing to be misunderstood, it's like running the pump dry. You have to mention it every time you talk about filling the loop.

Since we are so familiar with working with these pumps we know it's common knowledge for us. But to some unfamiliar with them wouldn't it stand to reason they wouldn't know to not run the pump full speed if it gets them better performance, especially if they used an AIO where they could run the pump full speed without it getting too hot?
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post #19 of 22
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I am looking at a few cases for this project:

DIYPC Vanguard-RGB
Rosewill CULLINAN
CM Master Case Pro 5
CM Master Case Maker 5t
Crystal 460X RGB

My current case will not fit anything but a a couple of 120mm and one 140mm radiators. All the above can house a 360MM in front and at least a 280MM on top. The case I am most drawn to is the Cullinan appearance wise and Crystal 460x. The 460x does come with static pressure RGB fans, but it is the smallest case of them all being 2 inches in height and length. Might be too tight to get the rads in it comfortably. The Vanguard looks nice, but seems like very little details about it online. I like the 5t's tempered glass and modularity, though not the red accents and it looks impossible to get some parts like the tempered glass panel for the Pro 5. Not a fan of how CM hyped up modular cases, then didn't follow up with parts.

Granted the case is cheap, though I wonder how a custom loop would work in these.
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I am looking at a few cases for this project:

DIYPC Vanguard-RGB
Rosewill CULLINAN
CM Master Case Pro 5
CM Master Case Maker 5t
Crystal 460X RGB

My current case will not fit anything but a a couple of 120mm and one 140mm radiators. All the above can house a 360MM in front and at least a 280MM on top. The case I am most drawn to is the Cullinan appearance wise and Crystal 460x. The 460x does come with static pressure RGB fans, but it is the smallest case of them all being 2 inches in height and length. Might be too tight to get the rads in it comfortably. The Vanguard looks nice, but seems like very little details about it online. I like the 5t's tempered glass and modularity, though not the red accents and it looks impossible to get some parts like the tempered glass panel for the Pro 5. Not a fan of how CM hyped up modular cases, then didn't follow up with parts.

Granted the case is cheap, though I wonder how a custom loop would work in these.
Just cause you can do 140mm x2 on top, do not mean a rad is sup[ported.

CM front max is 35mm Top has really bad exhaust or none at all. Plus looks like crap and being high cost. Not worth it.
DIYPC the front fans mounting is not spaced correctly, and placement blocks the side vents.
Crystal is 240 max only on top, but may have clearance issues if going with 360 rad in front with 35mm+ for more.
Rosewill 360 front limit of 35mm max. With 240 on top.

As for thickness, you will need to get proper measurements. As what I mentioned is estimates.
    
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