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Some of the responses in this thread... Just wow.

I am really not sure how you can look at the data, look at the insane weather patterns, the fires, hurricane basically hitting UK, etc etc and not realize that the consequences for our actions are already right in front of our faces.

Rayleyne: Go tell someone who's house just flooded that their won't be any direct impact on their lives. Such a silly and shortsighted viewpoint.

A continuation of species/biomass decline such as this is absolutely worrisome, especially if it extrapolates out. The potential impact is devastating, whether you like it or not. Depending on how many species die off, we could see entire phylums disappear. If you take this topic lightly it really is because you don't fully comprehend the implications.

Also, the oceans are really where we should be looking. Worldwide declines of fisheries, increase in Jellyfish etc are certainly not ideal.

PS Cnidarians love the warmer water, speeds up their life cycle, fish not so much.
 
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Some of the responses in this thread... Just wow.

I am really not sure how you can look at the data, look at the insane weather patterns, the fires, hurricane basically hitting UK, etc etc and not realize that the consequences for our actions are already right in front of our faces.

Rayleyne: Go tell someone who's house just flooded that their won't be any direct impact on their lives. Such a silly and shortsighted viewpoint.

A continuation of species/biomass decline such as this is absolutely worrisome, especially if it extrapolates out. The potential impact is devastating, whether you like it or not. Depending on how many species die off, we could see entire phylums disappear. If you take this topic lightly it really is because you don't fully comprehend the implications.

Also, the oceans are really where we should be looking. Worldwide declines of fisheries, increase in Jellyfish etc are certainly not ideal.

PS Cnidarians love the warmer water, speeds up their life cycle, fish not so much.

But.. But.. You're making the "I don't directly notice the effects just yet, so I don't care and neither should anyone else" argument sound like it might be based on ignorance, apathy and non-understanding.. That argument is just as valid as one based on empiracle evidence, scientific testing and deep understandings of the topics discussed!
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For those who want a relatable example, many simple medical conditions exhibit symptoms that are either hard to detect or do not show up until it is too late. A close friend of mine died from Cardiac Arrest. He was perfectly healthy but an autopsy revealed complications with his heart, some form of arrhythmia. Same can be said about priblems with cars, the economy, and the health of the planet.

Just because you dont see it doesnt mean its not there.
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Originally Posted by Biorganic View Post

Some of the responses in this thread... Just wow.

I am really not sure how you can look at the data, look at the insane weather patterns, the fires, hurricane basically hitting UK, etc etc and not realize that the consequences for our actions are already right in front of our faces.

Rayleyne: Go tell someone who's house just flooded that their won't be any direct impact on their lives. Such a silly and shortsighted viewpoint.

A continuation of species/biomass decline such as this is absolutely worrisome, especially if it extrapolates out. The potential impact is devastating, whether you like it or not. Depending on how many species die off, we could see entire phylums disappear. If you take this topic lightly it really is because you don't fully comprehend the implications.

Also, the oceans are really where we should be looking. Worldwide declines of fisheries, increase in Jellyfish etc are certainly not ideal.

PS Cnidarians love the warmer water, speeds up their life cycle, fish not so much.


Please re read my post, I never spoke of other people, I spoke only of me, And again, I've yet to see aaaaaaaaaaaanything that effects me in the slightest so I am quite happy to continue my path of worldly destructive ways.
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What exactly is this supposed to depict? Is it population? If so, must be a century old based on the figures...

Are you capable of drawing conclusions on your own?
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And this is the start of the end times.
If you say that every time something significant happens, I guess you'll eventually be right.

For clarity, though, we've contributed to, and survived countless "end times" in our evolutionary history. Even in just human written history, we've overcome more drastic environmental changes .. ones that effect us directly, not indirectly.

It won't be end times for me or my lineage, I can tell you that much.
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If you say that every time something significant happens, I guess you'll eventually be right.

For clarity, though, we've contributed to, and survived countless "end times" in our evolutionary history. Even in just human written history, we've overcome more drastic environmental changes .. ones that effect us directly, not indirectly.

It won't be end times for me or my lineage, I can tell you that much.

What were these countless end times in our evolutionary history?
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This could potentially be a game ender for humanity.
Hahah do you have any reasoning behind saying that? The food chain will adjust as it always has and maybe we will have to do some forced pollination to keep some plant species alive..
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A bunch of different bees are already endangered
A bunch of bees are also completely extinct on some continents. Bees are not as important as everyone seems to think. Maybe a few species of plants will die out, but wind is still the primary pollination mechanism.
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What were these countless end times in our evolutionary history?
Holocene, Quaternary, Middle Miocene, Eocene–Oligocene?

The list is rather long, and the effects on humanity's personal evolutionary heritage are just as difficult to qualtify. Life is old -- it's actually quite interesting, all that's happened to bring us to this point.
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Of course its decreasing because they are all over the front of my car that's why! lol biggrin.gif
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