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Hey guys, long time no post. My son was born so I've been pretty busy but now I'm about to do a new build for my buddy.

Here's where "y'all" come in.. check out the specs of the build I'm planning and let me know if it's worth it to spend the extra on a 1080.

He's going to have it hooked up to a 4k TV for the main display and would like to game @ 4k where possible. Otherwise this build is planned for eventual VR use too.

The GPU I'm currently eyeballing is the EVGA GTX 1070 FTW2 for $449 @ Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06X3RBJLW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

However over at Newegg I see the Gigabyte GTX 1080 Turbo OC GV-N1080TTOC-8GD for $499...
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125908&cm_re=gtx_1080-_-14-125-908-_-Product


For only $50 more, what's better for this use case, a fancy 1070 or a basic 1080?


Planned PC Specs:
Case: Corsair Carbide Air 240 MicroATX (that cube like case)
CPU: i7-7700k
RAM: 16GB (2x8) G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4 3200
Mobo: Asus ROG Strix Z270G MicroATX
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO M.2 500GB
Cooling: Corsair H100i V2
GPU: See above!


Feel free to weigh in on any of the components listed above as well.

Thanks! thumb.gif
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post #2 of 26
Can I give you some advice about your build? You are talking about 4K. Forget 7700K, get the new i5-8400 and quality custom GTX1080. You'll get WAY better performance from such build (especially in 4K) than 7700K and 1070. Not only that, this will cost you less!
post #3 of 26
4k limits frame rates. . . which means he could get away with less CPU not more

I'm not sure what framerates are standard in VR. But def don't need more cpu power for "normal" pc gaming at the max 60 FPS he will be playing

You need a 1080 Ti tho

1070 not gonna drive a modern AAA game at 60 fps at 4k res

He could save himself thousands by just not going to 4k, or he needs to buy a better GPU because this isn't gonna work with a 1070.
post #4 of 26
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127945&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=GTX_1080-_-14-127-945-_-Product

510 after rebate,and yes it's worth the 60$ more. Fancy PCB is useless with Pascal when they are power and voltage limited.

1080 with OC,he won't be able to play at 4K Ultra settings and 60 FPS,maybe medium-high. He can try running it at 3200x1800 wich is near 4K.
Edited by GoLDii3 - 10/19/17 at 6:05am
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He asked about 4k mainly because his tv is 4k. I dont think he understood the big change that'd have to the budget.

If he was indifferent about 4k, is my original question still valid? Is the 1080 worth the extra? The Ti is a lot more than the 1070 than the 1080.

If he is dead set on 4k and decent frames, is he only going to need a 1080ti?
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Originally Posted by silverh20 View Post

He asked about 4k mainly because his tv is 4k. I dont think he understood the big change that'd have to the budget.

If he was indifferent about 4k, is my original question still valid? Is the 1080 worth the extra? The Ti is a lot more than the 1070 than the 1080.

If he is dead set on 4k and decent frames, is he only going to need a 1080ti?

It's subjective. . . 1080 will last him longer. It's about 125% as effective as the 1070 in most scenarios if memory serves

Really depends on what he plays, how much he plays, and his expectations. . . . .
post #7 of 26
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Originally Posted by silverh20 View Post

He asked about 4k mainly because his tv is 4k. I dont think he understood the big change that'd have to the budget.

If he was indifferent about 4k, is my original question still valid? Is the 1080 worth the extra? The Ti is a lot more than the 1070 than the 1080.

If he is dead set on 4k and decent frames, is he only going to need a 1080ti?

1. The 1080 is absolutely worth the extra $. I havent been card shopping in a while, so im very surprised the difference is only $50.

2. The Ti is about 35% faster @ 4k than the vanilla 1080. If he can, the Ti is the better choice for those demands.
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Only reason I'm still wondering about whether or not he should get a 1080 is because of what I've heard about OC'd 1070s, Otherwise I'll just present him with the info about 1070 vs 1080 in regards to costs and performance expectations.
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Originally Posted by silverh20 View Post

Only reason I'm still wondering about whether or not he should get a 1080 is because of what I've heard about OC'd 1070s, Otherwise I'll just present him with the info about 1070 vs 1080 in regards to costs and performance expectations.

None of them OC for crap*, all down the line

edit - at least relative to older generations of cards
post #10 of 26
If your friend is expecting 4K@60fps with max settings in most current games with a GTX 1080 he/she might be disappointed. Even a 1080Ti will struggle with some current games at 4K@60fps. Some future game releases will struggle even more. What's your friend's upgrade cycle? If he/she upgrades a gpu every 2-3 years. A GTX 1080 will hold him/her over until a more capable card that can easily hit 4K@60fps arrives. If the upgrade cycle is longer, than he/she might have to look into the 1080Tis. IMO, I don't expect Nvidia's 2018 gpu releases to hit 4K@60fps in all current games maxxed either let alone the 2018 game releases. 2019/2020 is when I expect a gpu that can easily handle 4K@60fps+ maxxed for current games.
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