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Is the 1080 worth it? - new build

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#1 ·
Hey guys, long time no post. My son was born so I've been pretty busy but now I'm about to do a new build for my buddy.

Here's where "y'all" come in.. check out the specs of the build I'm planning and let me know if it's worth it to spend the extra on a 1080.

He's going to have it hooked up to a 4k TV for the main display and would like to game @ 4k where possible. Otherwise this build is planned for eventual VR use too.

The GPU I'm currently eyeballing is the EVGA GTX 1070 FTW2 for $449 @ Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06X3RBJLW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

However over at Newegg I see the Gigabyte GTX 1080 Turbo OC GV-N1080TTOC-8GD for $499...
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125908&cm_re=gtx_1080-_-14-125-908-_-Product

For only $50 more, what's better for this use case, a fancy 1070 or a basic 1080?

Planned PC Specs:
Case: Corsair Carbide Air 240 MicroATX (that cube like case)
CPU: i7-7700k
RAM: 16GB (2x8) G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4 3200
Mobo: Asus ROG Strix Z270G MicroATX
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO M.2 500GB
Cooling: Corsair H100i V2
GPU: See above!

Feel free to weigh in on any of the components listed above as well.

Thanks!
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#2 ·
Can I give you some advice about your build? You are talking about 4K. Forget 7700K, get the new i5-8400 and quality custom GTX1080. You'll get WAY better performance from such build (especially in 4K) than 7700K and 1070. Not only that, this will cost you less!
 
#3 ·
4k limits frame rates. . . which means he could get away with less CPU not more

I'm not sure what framerates are standard in VR. But def don't need more cpu power for "normal" pc gaming at the max 60 FPS he will be playing

You need a 1080 Ti tho

1070 not gonna drive a modern AAA game at 60 fps at 4k res

He could save himself thousands by just not going to 4k, or he needs to buy a better GPU because this isn't gonna work with a 1070.
 
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#5 ·
He asked about 4k mainly because his tv is 4k. I dont think he understood the big change that'd have to the budget.

If he was indifferent about 4k, is my original question still valid? Is the 1080 worth the extra? The Ti is a lot more than the 1070 than the 1080.

If he is dead set on 4k and decent frames, is he only going to need a 1080ti?
 
#6 ·
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Originally Posted by silverh20 View Post

He asked about 4k mainly because his tv is 4k. I dont think he understood the big change that'd have to the budget.

If he was indifferent about 4k, is my original question still valid? Is the 1080 worth the extra? The Ti is a lot more than the 1070 than the 1080.

If he is dead set on 4k and decent frames, is he only going to need a 1080ti?
It's subjective. . . 1080 will last him longer. It's about 125% as effective as the 1070 in most scenarios if memory serves

Really depends on what he plays, how much he plays, and his expectations. . . . .
 
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Originally Posted by silverh20 View Post

He asked about 4k mainly because his tv is 4k. I dont think he understood the big change that'd have to the budget.

If he was indifferent about 4k, is my original question still valid? Is the 1080 worth the extra? The Ti is a lot more than the 1070 than the 1080.

If he is dead set on 4k and decent frames, is he only going to need a 1080ti?
1. The 1080 is absolutely worth the extra $. I havent been card shopping in a while, so im very surprised the difference is only $50.

2. The Ti is about 35% faster @ 4k than the vanilla 1080. If he can, the Ti is the better choice for those demands.
 
#9 ·
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Originally Posted by silverh20 View Post

Only reason I'm still wondering about whether or not he should get a 1080 is because of what I've heard about OC'd 1070s, Otherwise I'll just present him with the info about 1070 vs 1080 in regards to costs and performance expectations.
None of them OC for crap*, all down the line

edit - at least relative to older generations of cards
 
#10 ·
If your friend is expecting 4K@60fps with max settings in most current games with a GTX 1080 he/she might be disappointed. Even a 1080Ti will struggle with some current games at 4K@60fps. Some future game releases will struggle even more. What's your friend's upgrade cycle? If he/she upgrades a gpu every 2-3 years. A GTX 1080 will hold him/her over until a more capable card that can easily hit 4K@60fps arrives. If the upgrade cycle is longer, than he/she might have to look into the 1080Tis. IMO, I don't expect Nvidia's 2018 gpu releases to hit 4K@60fps in all current games maxxed either let alone the 2018 game releases. 2019/2020 is when I expect a gpu that can easily handle 4K@60fps+ maxxed for current games.
 
#12 ·
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Originally Posted by revamper View Post

For $50 more, it is 100% worth it. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
That pretty much sums up things for me lol. That and everyone else's input regarding 4k and frame rates right now. I'll try to get him to go for the 1080, seems like a no brainer.

Thanks guys!

Build log to follow once parts are ordered.
 
#15 ·
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Originally Posted by meshal300 View Post

i was in the same boat.. i am also connecting my pc to 4k tv, i chose 1080 gigabyte g1.. i am more than happy with it.
They're very quiet

Barely noticebly louder than my 1080 ti gaming x, which are supposed to be one of the quietest of this generation.

For the price can't get much better

edit - at reasonable rpms
 
#19 ·
The gtx 1080 is a 1440 ultra gpu for most modern AAA games. The 1080ti will run most games at 4k with AA off and few settings turned down. The first real 4k card will be the Big Die Volta part until then we are stuck with the 1080ti as the single card 4k solution and multigpu if your game of your choice still supports that feature.
 
#20 ·
They took awhile and are still catching up, probably a couple of years behind, the gtx1080 can play games from 2015's at 1440p.
 
#21 ·
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Originally Posted by Juicin View Post

? Can't hear it?

I'm not sure if your'e serious but if you can't tell your GPU is running at 100% rpm on it's fans you should probably see a doctor.
yes...you maybe not believe me, even I opened the case, I'm still unable to hear the fans running at 100%...UNLESS I put my ears so close to the card, then I can hear it, but from the normal distance, I can't.

At the first time, I don't believe, that's why I tried it few times, but still can't hear the fans spinning at full speed.

You believe me or not, the choice is yours.
 
#22 ·
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Originally Posted by Sharchaster View Post

yes...you maybe not believe me, even I opened the case, I'm still unable to hear the fans running at 100%...UNLESS I put my ears so close to the card, then I can hear it, but from the normal distance, I can't.

At the first time, I don't believe, that's why I tried it few times, but still can't hear the fans spinning at full speed.

You believe me or not, the choice is yours.
There is massive air displacement there

What are you defining as "hear"?

You think because it's not spitting out some high pitch noise it's not making any? You can't hear it when you play with teh slider/

. . . .

If you to your knowledge have no issues with your senses. . . Probably not a good sign.

The fans move a lot of air at 100%, hard to miss
 
#24 ·
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Originally Posted by silverh20 View Post

whats a good cheap 1080 then?
Used or blower type if you can find them.
 
#25 ·
If you get a lower wattage PSU (probably won't pull more than 450W, even with the 1080 ti) and ditch that (trash) CLC for a comparable air cooler you could free up some of the budget for the ti.

Could also drop to 256GB m2 and add a HDD for games and free up even more of the budget.

1080ti is worth every penny at 4k, wouldn't even bother with anything else personally.
 
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