Unity had flaws but it had also personality, it was a cohesive whole, its own project, distinct.
This is a patchwork of miscellaneous extensions and visual tweaks; nothing you couldn't do on your own in half an hour.
Been messing about with it for a while. Yeah, it’s nothing you couldn’t do yourself, but default Gnome is much less annoying than Unity. It’s also much less prone to startup exceptions.
I still think they should have gone with kde while it would be strange consider their default apps are gtk and not qt but in terms of functionallity kde can get much closer to unity in terms of functionality then gnome.
Not that it ultimately matters to me as an arch user. (My desktop is stuck on windows)
Unity had flaws but it had also personality, it was a cohesive whole, its own project, distinct.
This is a patchwork of miscellaneous extensions and visual tweaks; nothing you couldn't do on your own in half an hour.
Unity required a patchwork of patches to make that cohesive whole. I'm interested to see what they can achieve now that they can ship upstream packages with fewer modifications. I used to be interested in Ubuntu releases even though I don't use it. My interest waned as each release became a game of spot the difference.
I rarely touch linux, but when I used Ubuntu the old interface bothered me a bit (to the point I had to load something else), looking at this video I like what I see more compared to 16.04 or whatever it was I last used.
Ironically last year I switched to the Ubuntu Gnome sub distro (before any of this was announced). As a programmer I think it is a monstrosity, with an incomplete API which they try to hype up as simple & easy to use, but it is simply not. Also after digging into one of the plugins to fix an issue, I discovered how prohibitive it really is and how disorganized the elements of the desktop are. No wonder the display settings are absolute garbage & multi monitor support is terrible. Don't even bother trying two displays with different resolutions, this system is not robust at all.
I really hope things have changed in the past few months, and hopefully with the Canonical UI team now developing for Gnome, things will start to become more cohesive. But if Unity is their defining example of competence in UX, I think we may be in trouble.
I'm going to consider different desktop environments & Arch Linux or Fedora for now on. Or perhaps Ubuntu Server base with my own choice of desktop. I'll give Ubuntu desktop one more fair try for 18.04 (as we use it at work so I really have no choice anyway).
Fedora is still my choice for development work. It’s just a better productivity environment if you need newer compatibility than RHEL after kernel patches.
The only Ubuntu I ever used was Ubuntu Gnome anyway...
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I'm going to consider different desktop environments & Arch Linux or Fedora for now on. Or perhaps Ubuntu Server base with my own choice of desktop. I'll give Ubuntu desktop one more fair try for 18.04 (as we use it at work so I really have no choice anyway).
You might want to try the prepackaged Arch based distros: Manjaro and Antergos. Antergos offers a selection of WM/DE's during install, with nice default configurations, while Manjaro comes in different flavours, one for every WM/DE under the sun.
They're worth a look, though Manjaro tries to offer a 'stable' package repo which is exactly why I left Ubuntu and then Debian... but luckily its super easy to remove - its Arch after all.
Nice defaults, easy installer, fantastic package management (pacaur/yaourt), things can be found where they should be and modified in place (no weird abstractions and GUIs for basic /etc/ config files etc.).
Arch is fantastic if you enjoy using the shell, and if you come across something you don't know, most use cases are documented in the excellent Arch Wiki.
I'll take a look at those for sure, and Fedora. I tried Arch's ARM build for a Raspberry Pi B and enjoyed it, likely for the good command line practice, and in the case of a Pi it's nice to install exactly what you need. It's good to stay in good practice, I work for a small business and we don't have actual IT, so us software engineers end up being the IT department when needed, lol.
I hated it when they switched from gnome back in the day. While it has gotten better, it is still a pretty meh UI. Would take a KDE interface over it any day, and I'm not the biggest fan on KDE.
I've always been onboard with using Gnome, glad they are switching back. I'd expect future releases to be more refined. Just kinda wish Ubuntu didn't waste so much time with unity.
Ubuntu, Mint, and pretty much all Debian based Distros are pretty easy to use, with a large backing of support online. Ubuntu byfar has the most online support, but what works for one Debian Distro should for the most part work with another.
I've always liked Debian based distro's for personal use, Honestly they are the way to go. OpenSuse would be the Distro I would like people to love, but the support just isn't there. It simply isn't popular enough, and have enough backing to take that spot IMO.
As for a server OS. Cent OS. That or Unraid or Free NAS.
Hopefully this puts Ubuntu back up on top, I know they have been loosing ground to mint ever since they moved to unity.
i still kind of prefer a normal old school gnome start menu over their quick bar or whatever it is. not that it can't be tweaked or learned quickly
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