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Bought Acer 38" and 1080Ti ... should I upgrade this cpu?

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#1 ·
Hey guys,
so ... I just pulled the plug on an Acer 38" and a 1080Ti. It's been a while i didn't upgrade and after being completely tired of having 2 or 2 monitors on my desk to work and game ... I decided to get the 38" and the 980 would not drive this beast.

My current setup is:

i5 4690K @ 4.6
32Gb 2400Mhz Ram
MSI Gaming 7 Z97

I was thinking about jumping to the 8700K bandwagon but ... then i got this good deal on a 4790K for 280 Eur. At the end of the day i don't do any video edition ( i work in web development though, but the requirements are not that high )

So... i have 3 options

a) Stay with the 4690K
b) Upgrade the 4690K to the 4790K
c) Go completely crazy and upgrade to 8700K ( new mobo, new ram needed )

I must admit, I'm more towards the option b) but I would like to know your feedback on this.

Thank you
Pedros.
 
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#2 ·
What resolution is the monitor? 1440p+ the 4690K wont be a bottleneck, I don't believe.

The 4790K would be the easy upgrade and haswell is still great for high fps games.
 
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Originally Posted by gtz View Post

What resolution is the monitor? 1440p+ the 4690K wont be a bottleneck, I don't believe.

The 4790K would be the easy upgrade and haswell is still great for high fps games.
That's not true,it depends on the game. If a game is cpu intensive it really does not matter what resolution you play at,for example BF1. I used to drop to 40's playing on 1440p,meanwhile people with i7's have higher minimum FPS.

Same for Watchdogs 2 and Hitman.

@OP what do you mean for good deal?
 
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Originally Posted by GoLDii3 View Post

That's not true,it depends on the game. If a game is cpu intensive it really does not matter what resolution you play at,for example BF1. I used to drop to 40's playing on 1440p,meanwhile people with i7's have higher minimum FPS.

Same for Watchdogs 2 and Hitman.

@OP what do you mean for good deal?
You are correct at 1440p minimum frames and 1% lows would be lower but compared to 1080P not as bad. At 4K it might be a non issue since it might have trouble keeping up with 60-80 FPS in games (depending on the games).

38" I would think it would be 4K, I might be wrong. Still waiting on a response.

Regardless a 4790K is still great if he goes that route.
 
#5 ·
Thank you for your input guys. It's a 3840x1600p. Less than 4k resolution.

Good deal == 265 Eur (let's pretend it's around 280usd). O know this cpu wasn't overclocked... Only one tryout and hit 4.8 with oc genie from msi.

I'm thinking that by going this route I can keep my machine still up and running for at least one more year instead of spending 1k in a new platform.

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#6 ·
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Originally Posted by Pedros View Post

Thank you for your input guys. It's a 3840x1600p. Less than 4k resolution.

Good deal == 265 Eur (let's pretend it's around 280usd). O know this cpu wasn't overclocked... Only one tryout and hit 4.8 with oc genie from msi.

I'm thinking that by going this route I can keep my machine still up and running for at least one more year instead of spending 1k in a new platform.

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I don't think that's a very good price. A i5 8400 has six cores and will be better than the i7. You don't necessarely need to spend 1K. Make it i5 8400 or 8600K instead of 8700K,a 200 motherboard wich sould be enough,16 GB DDR4 unless you need more,that should be around 600 EUR.
 
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Originally Posted by GoLDii3 View Post

I don't think that's a very good price. A i5 8400 has six cores and will be better than the i7. You don't necessarely need to spend 1K. Make it i5 8400 or 8600K instead of 8700K,a 200 motherboard wich sould be enough,16 GB DDR4 unless you need more,that should be around 600 EUR.
Hardware prices are probably expensive in his country making the 4790K a good purchase.

Coffee Lake is great but limited quantities and only available motherboards are Z370 are expensive. I do not recommend that route until the cpu hit at least MSRP pricing.
 
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Originally Posted by Pedros View Post

Thank you for your input guys. It's a 3840x1600p. Less than 4k resolution.

Good deal == 265 Eur (let's pretend it's around 280usd). O know this cpu wasn't overclocked... Only one tryout and hit 4.8 with oc genie from msi.

I'm thinking that by going this route I can keep my machine still up and running for at least one more year instead of spending 1k in a new platform.

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Honestly, as a 4790k owner who is about to upgrade to an 8700k myself, the honest truth is that at your resolution, any money you dump into upgrading the CPU at this point will result in little if any benefit. Unless you're already running a very highly overclocked GTX 1080 right now you would be better off upgrading your GPU and waiting another year or so before upgrading the CPU. Wait for Ryzen 2 and Ice Lake CPUs to launch along with the Intel Z390 motherboards before upgrading your CPU. As far as gaming goes your GPU would make a FAR larger difference than your CPU, assuming you aren't already running an overclocked GTX 1080 or better GPU right now.

Like I've said, I've got an i7 4790k running at 4.7GHZ now, and I wouldn't be upgrading to an 8700k if it weren't for the fact that my current motherboard is failing. (NIC and Sound Chipset are totally non-functional after a lighting strike) At the resolution you're running there is almost no performance gain to be had from upgrading the CPU unless you've got some serious non-gaming related CPU intensive tasks you need to do.
 
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Originally Posted by Pedros View Post

Thank you for your input guys. It's a 3840x1600p. Less than 4k resolution.

Good deal == 265 Eur (let's pretend it's around 280usd). O know this cpu wasn't overclocked... Only one tryout and hit 4.8 with oc genie from msi.

I'm thinking that by going this route I can keep my machine still up and running for at least one more year instead of spending 1k in a new platform.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Honestly, as a 4790k owner who is about to upgrade to an 8700k myself, the honest truth is that at your resolution, any money you dump into upgrading the CPU at this point will result in little if any benefit. Unless you're already running a very highly overclocked GTX 1080 right now you would be better off upgrading your GPU and waiting another year or so before upgrading the CPU. Wait for Ryzen 2 and Ice Lake CPUs to launch along with the Intel Z390 motherboards before upgrading your CPU. As far as gaming goes your GPU would make a FAR larger difference than your CPU, assuming you aren't already running an overclocked GTX 1080 or better GPU right now.

Like I've said, I've got an i7 4790k running at 4.7GHZ now, and I wouldn't be upgrading to an 8700k if it weren't for the fact that my current motherboard is failing. (NIC and Sound Chipset are totally non-functional after a lighting strike) At the resolution you're running there is almost no performance gain to be had from upgrading the CPU unless you've got some serious non-gaming related CPU intensive tasks you need to do.
Thank you for your input. I just got a MSI 1080ti Seahawk x. Lets see how it goes
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Maybe I'll skip the upgrade
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#10 ·
The only Acer 38" I see from google is using Free-Sync. Is this your monitor? https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XR382CQK-bmijqphuzx-UltraWide-FreeSync/dp/B01N6S1P2D

That monitor is not a native match for the 1080ti - you aren't getting the adaptive sync benefits at all. Adaptive sync is the game changer and I can't stress enough how much it improves the gaming experience.

Each time I fire up a game and my GSYNC isn't working I immediately can tell how awful the tearing looks. Before I had GSYNC I thought things looked great - until I got GSYNC and compared back and forth how night and day it is.

I'm sure you are happy with your purchase but I think you need to go back to step 1 and match a AMD GPU with your Freesync monitor or get a GSync monitor to match your 1080ti.
 
#11 ·
@Pedros
You can see my spec's in my signature below.

I only play one game, it's an 'old one' called Insurgency...very CPU intensive on a single core.
My GFX card is about four years old....I see 300 FPS often in game. I never see below 100 FPS.
My CPU is 2 1/2 years old...has been on a constant OC of 4.8 ghz the entire time....I never see temps above 65C and on GFX card never above the same.

The nice person "gtx" gave you excellent advice. The 4790K OC'd to +4.7ghz is amazing. I plan on keeping my rig for a couple more years.
I believe a 4790K OC'd would drive a 1080ti just fine with no bottleneck. I'd love to have one 1080Ti...someday. Just can't justify it with the old game I play.

Good Luck to you....you asked good questions....you got good relevant advice from all.

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4790K
 
#13 ·
Thank you all for you replies guys.

Still deciding ... today i delided my 4690K ... its cool too see max temps of 55ºC
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Maybe i'll do the same if i get the 4790K...

As for the monitor and being freesync, i know. I got this monitor because this will be a hybrid for work and games. I was thinking about getting the Dell or the LG 38" but then this Acer came along and the 75Hz without freesync made me go that route where the LG only gets 75Hz with Freesync.
 
#14 ·
Your cpu will not bottleneck your GPU at that resolution trust me I run a 4790k/1080ti at 4k and my cpu just sits around waiting for something to do the majority of the time. I can drop my clocks all the way down to 4ghz and still get the same frames in most games. We are probably 2 generations of large die Nvidia gpus before cpu's start bottlenecking gpus at 4k. Use the money that you were going to use on a new cpu and get a good gaming headset or mechanical keyboard.
 
#15 ·
Or a new case
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actually that's what i'm really missing
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My Air540 is kind of cramped :x
Timeline ends tomorrow since the vendor has other people interested and because i contacted him first tomorrow is the D day ... i'll think this through during the night
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#16 ·
4790k will do fine in most scenarios

One thing to consider though is if your leaning on the 8700k set up I'd do it now since Haswell still has some resale value. That said Im lazy and would probably stick with the platform unless I was wanting higher minimums for high refresh monitors which I dont think is a part of your scenario.
 
#17 ·
TheReciever ... that's it ... i'm lazy man
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I still think that the small jump to the 4790K would allow me some overhead for 1 or 2 years ... It's like "spend X now and keep it for 2 years or spend X*4 and keep it for 4 "
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