Originally Posted by Techhog
The Bristol Ridge APUs are locked. You don't need a good board for them. Besides that, the Asrock AB350 seems fine.
For one, they aren't locked. The motherboard support is just terrible because oem's are lazy when it comes to AMD. Further than that, Raven ridge won't be locked either, so people using bristol ridge as a stop gap will be very disappointed with what they have to pick from when it comes to motherboards.
The APUs were popular products before Ryzens release. Ryzen doesn't come with any integrated graphics options and Intel isn't really even a consideration, so in that regard, there is no chip in that niche right now other than Bristol Ridge. Regardless, I'm done trying to convince you of Bristol Ridge's relevance.
I have no idea why you are defending these garbage AM4 itx boards. Even if we remove bristol ridge from the equation, all current itx am4 motherboards have problems with vrms overheating/throttling. Maybe these two new ones from Asus will fix that, but it comes at the cost of audio i/o, usb inputs, video out. Every board smaller than ATX for Am4 comes with compromises. Quality, heatsinks, i/o, BIOS support, not to mention that a bunch of it was late to market.
I'm sitting here looking at my Asus z370 itx board that came out day one for coffee lake.. its i/o has 8 usb, wifi, 6 port audio, display port, and hdmi. Or, if you want to see what effort looks like, go look at ASrocks x299 mini itx. Somehow they managed to fit more i/o on that board than Asus did here. What you are seeing is absolute bare minimum effort for AM4. These boards on Intel's side would all be budget options.Edited by Ultracarpet - 10/22/17 at 9:59am