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NF-F12 in black finally?

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Ya, no. Those are industrial models and are much louder than consumer versions.
 
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No. They have the exact same sound at same RPM. Just industrial has higher RPM.
 
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Originally Posted by Sp33d Junki3 View Post

No. They have the exact same sound at same RPM. Just industrial has higher RPM.
That is not correct, ive even seen doyle (who is the air cooling guy around here) say at same RPM industrial models are louder due to the motors.

Anyways yes these are brand new, took them 10 years but they finally caved lol:
http://noctua.at/en/noctua-introduces-chromax-line-fans-cables-and-heatsink-covers

Also industrial are not all black, they have the ugly brown corners. I am sure someone will appreicate this news, not just trolls posting for whatever reason.
 
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Good news either way, these are cheaper and quieter than industrial models. Wonder if RGB models will take another 10 years : )
 
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My understanding is Noctua makes consumer and industrial fans and many people have found the black industrial fans to be noisier than consumer fans at same rpm. When buyers of industrial fans complained about them clicking /. humming Noctua told them it was because they were industrial fans.

My understsanding is new Chromax series are consumer fan in black. The only exception is the A15 Chromax is 1500rpm. The baby poo brown A15 acessory fan is 1200rpm. The baby poo brown A15 1500rpm fan only comes on coolers.
 
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The corner tabs are (thankfully) easily removable.
 
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No. They have the exact same sound at same RPM. Just industrial has higher RPM.
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

My understanding is Noctua makes consumer and industrial fans and many people have found the black industrial fans to be noisier than consumer fans at same rpm. When buyers of industrial fans complained about them clicking /. humming Noctua told them it was because they were industrial fans.
Having tested the F12 and the iPPC side by side, I will say that they do not sound the same at same rpm. Very different tonalities. While not much louder in terms of dB, the iPPC are grating and intrusive to my (and may other's) ears.
 
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Having tested the F12 and the iPPC side by side, I will say that they do not sound the same at same rpm. Very different tonalities. While not much louder in terms of dB, the iPPC are grating and intrusive to my (and may other's) ears.
You are only one of many who have said similar about iPPC fans .. although I seem to remember @MicroCat saying the 24v iPPC are nice and quiet on 12v power. He wanted TY-147A fans but can't get them up north where he is.
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AFAIK the NF-F12 is not a great fan because of the "focus flow vanes". Even when it was first introduced, Martin's liquid lab tested it vs Gentle typhoon, Noiseblocker eloops , Corsair SP120, etc and determined it was merely average.

https://martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/fan-testing-round-12/
Just another good example of how Noctua while having some good product does have some that are not even average. Problem is many 'fanboys' believe if it's 'Noctua' it is the best .. and that simply is not at all true.
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Just another good example of how Noctua while having some good product does have some that are not even average. Problem is many 'fanboys' believe if it's 'Noctua' it is the best .. and that simply is not at all true.
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No way. Corsair fans are more besterer!!!! They have more dB and RGB!!!!
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That said....I have nothing against Noctua fans. Well made and do what they are designed for. Liked every one I have used excepting the iPPC. "Liked", but not "loved", which explains their complete absence in my rigs. But, I wouldn't fault anyone for using them.
 
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No way. Corsair fans are more besterer!!!! They have more dB and RGB!!!!
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That said....I have nothing against Noctua fans. Well made and do what they are designed for. Liked every one I have used excepting the iPPC. "Liked", but not "loved", which explains their complete absence in my rigs. But, I wouldn't fault anyone for using them.
Indeed .. assuming user is not being a 'fanboy' and sounding like your 1st line with RGB and dB being king.
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hmm which one would you guys reckon is better gentle typhoon or nf-f12 ippc
I can't compare a 3000rpm fan to a 1450rpm fan. Sure they are both 12v fans and both 120mm, but that is about the only things they have in common.

I would choose 1850 or 2150 rpm PWM GT over NF-F12 3000rpm iPPC and idle it down 99% of the time.
1450rpm GT is enough fan speed 98% of the time.
 
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Just another good example of how Noctua while having some good product does have some that are not even average. Problem is many 'fanboys' believe if it's 'Noctua' it is the best .. and that simply is not at all true.
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Well it's caveat emptor (buyer beware).

Brand loyalty leads to no good since the manufacturers won't bring their A game.
 
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Well it's caveat emptor (buyer beware).

Brand loyalty leads to no good since the manufacturers won't bring their A game.
So, so true. And when we see the degradation of product quality and clearly inferior lines, the fanboys will still be there telling you they are the best thing around.

Thankfully, this has not been the case with Noctua to date.
 
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Noctua did have a brief thing on reddit/GamersNexus where they said the new ones from China had washed out details looking fake.
 
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Noctua did have a brief thing on reddit/GamersNexus where they said the new ones from China had washed out details looking fake.
It's reddit/GamersNexus. Can you find mention of this from a source that whines more about made up nonsense?
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AFAIK the NF-F12 is not a great fan because of the "focus flow vanes". Even when it was first introduced, Martin's liquid lab tested it vs Gentle typhoon, Noiseblocker eloops , Corsair SP120, etc and determined it was merely average.

https://martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/fan-testing-round-12/
corsair is not really that great, it is overprice and full of rgb Sxxx.

Notcua nf f12 and gentle typhoon is on par.
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Noctua did have a brief thing on reddit/GamersNexus where they said the new ones from China had washed out details looking fake.
don't misleading or spread bs, gamer nexus already tested it, no different at all.
 
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NF-F12 is not a very good fan, but it's got the Noctua name to keep it popular with Noctua cult following, similar following as Corsiar cult,but Noctua does have many very good products, unlike Corsair..
 
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NF-F12, no thanks, I don't know what else to say
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I don't care what color it is. Plus there have been gray and black options for ages now for the color pickers.
In some ways the Noctua fans have the correct color, beige brown that represents their overall performance and value. In other words, overpriced average stuff.
 
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corsair is not really that great, it is overprice and full of rgb Sxxx.

Notcua nf f12 and gentle typhoon is on par.
don't misleading or spread bs, gamer nexus already tested it, no different at all.
I never wrote Corsair fans are great, I wrote that Noctuas were compared to the SP120 in the review. The review was written when it was the first SP120, without RGB.

Even if the performance is the same, it leads you to believe the made in China Noctua fans don't have the same level of quality control.

NF-F12 has been proven to be mediocre by multiple places... for example hardware.fr.



http://www.hardware.fr/articles/867-23/graphique-recapitulatif.html
^ their recap is in free air but look at the dB levels

Ehume tested also

http://www.overclockers.com/pwm-fan-roundup-twenty-four-120-mm-case-fans-tested/

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Originally Posted by http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1343-page5.html
We've encountered the NF-F12 PWM previously on the NH-L12. It's one of the more radical designs we've seen in recent years featuring a series of thin, straight struts arranged like a clock around the hub with a few notches cut into each. The blades have very little curvature with the edges almost lining up perpendicular with the struts. This is the worst possible structure for limiting tonality. Interestingly, Noctua's latest line of fans, the A series, has a design that goes completely against this, with struts and blades curved in opposite directions.

Above 1,000 RPM, the acoustic profile was buzzy with a prominent high pitched tone. At ~900 RPM, it smoothed out considerably, though up close we could hear some bearing chatter. At ~800 RPM and below the fan became very quiet though it was plagued with a dull drone.

Compared to the sample from the NH-L12, this fan had a slightly poorer sound quality, a bit more tonal at high speeds. We far prefer the old trusty NF-P12 to either. Interestingly, the F12 is not equipped on any of Noctua's other coolers, nor has its design been carried over to any of their larger fan models. The F series may simply have been a short-lived experiment that has reached its conclusion.
 
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