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Upgrading from a i5 3570k, need help deciding!

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Alright, my buddy just gave me a MSI Z170A Gaming M7 motherboard. I'm looking into which CPU I should get, i5 7600k, i7 6700k and i7 7700k are the options I have in mind.

Which should I get?

Currently I do not own DDR4 sticks, so I would likely get 3000/3200mhz DDR4 Cat15/16.

I'm upgrading from an i5 3570k @ 4.5ghz with a 212+.

Questions that need to be asked:

From reviews it looks like the i7 6700 may actually be the better buy over a i7 7700k. Less heat, slightly cheaper, etc.
i5 vs i7, I feel like it's getting to the point where an i7 is more certainly necessary. (Crysis 3, Tomb Raider are good examples of why)

Also, will I need to get a new heatsink? (212+ currently, as I said above)

Suggestions from the community are welcome!

Right now my eyes are on these specifically:

http://www.microcenter.com/product/486302/Core_i7-6700K_SkyLake_40_GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor
http://www.microcenter.com/product/459742/SuperSC_16GB_2_x_8GB_DDR4-3200_PC4-25600_CL16_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory_Kit (why is ram so expensive now, holy smokes!!)
Edited by paulerxx - 10/21/17 at 8:24am
post #2 of 30
You should get either i7. The i5 wouldn't be much of an upgrade. You get an improvement in IPC and memory bandwidth, that's it. At least an i7 gives you more threads.

Try your 212+ and see what temperatures are like before committing to a few cooler. There's little point in buying a better cooler if your current cooler does a satisfactory job.

RAM prices are due to simple supply and demand. Demand was much lower a year ago. In the last year, we have seen Kaby Lake, Ryzen, Skylake-X, Kaby Lake-X, and Threadripper hit the market. That's a lot more platforms using DDR4 than a year ago when it was Skylake, Haswell-E, and Broadwell-E.
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Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post

You should get either i7. The i5 wouldn't be much of an upgrade. You get an improvement in IPC and memory bandwidth, that's it. At least an i7 gives you more threads.

Try your 212+ and see what temperatures are like before committing to a few cooler. There's little point in buying a better cooler if your current cooler does a satisfactory job.

RAM prices are due to simple supply and demand. Demand was much lower a year ago. In the last year, we have seen Kaby Lake, Ryzen, Skylake-X, Kaby Lake-X, and Threadripper hit the market. That's a lot more platforms using DDR4 than a year ago when it was Skylake, Haswell-E, and Broadwell-E.
Is it worth paying the extra for the i7 7700k over a 6700k? I also heard there's a chance it won't boot on my mobo unless the bios are up-to-date.
post #4 of 30
It's true your motherboard might need a BIOS update to recognize a Kaby Lake CPU. As far as which is better, they're practically the same processor. Kaby Lake is to Skylake what Devil's Canyon was to Haswell. It was merely a refresh, Skylake on a more refined process. You're going to see a difference in maybe 200 MHz in terms of maximum overclock between any given i7-6700K and i7-7700K.
post #5 of 30
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Originally Posted by paulerxx View Post

Is it worth paying the extra for the i7 7700k over a 6700k? I also heard there's a chance it won't boot on my mobo unless the bios are up-to-date.

With 1060 you will not be able to tell the difference. 7700K will be the CPU to get if you want to go 5GHz. 6700K clock 200-300MHz lower. You will probably need better cooling for both CPUs if you want to go to the Max. Yes you probably need a BIOS update for Z170. 6700K vs 7700K it all depends what the difference in price is.
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post #6 of 30
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Thanks guys, the i7 6700k definitely seems more what I'm after. Overclock it slightly to 4.6ghz/4.5ghz with my current cooler. It's only $20 cheaper at Microcenter.
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What's the point of purchasing a 6700K/7700K when intel has released the i5 8400 and i7 8700K?
post #8 of 30
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Originally Posted by GoLDii3 View Post

What's the point of purchasing a 6700K/7700K when intel has released the i5 8400 and i7 8700K?
They received a free Z170 motherboard. Did you even read the original post?
post #9 of 30
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How much do you think I can get by selling my i5 3570k + 16gbs (4 sticks) 1600mhz + Asrock Z77 Pro4? Estimated price of course.
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Originally Posted by paulerxx View Post

How much do you think I can get by selling my i5 3570k + 16gbs (4 sticks) 1600mhz + Asrock Z77 Pro4? Estimated price of course.

Well the i3 now is $120 with 4C.

3570K ~ 80-90 USD
16GB DDR3-1600 $60-70 USD
MB - 50-60 USD
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