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I got an easy 20 fps boost going from 4770k to 7700k in Arma 3. My upgrade was worth it.

A single game isn't enough to justify the price for a new motherboard, memory, and CPU. $700+ for an extra 20fps on that front is a huge loss my friend.
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With a single 970, may not be needed. Drop an i7 and oc’ed it about same as your i5, then sli 970 or 1080.

Precisely. I should try SLI 970s, could be fun. b-but my frame buffer biggrin.gif

I am likely out of the market for an intel i7 newer than ivy bridge until 8c/16t 5ghz becomes mainstream.
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Not worth the extra money for just two measly cores IMHO, not unless you need the top of the line single threaded performance for some poorly made game engines such as Arma, GTA, etc.
The extra 2 cores are nice but the price is steep. There is not much difference in games from most modern Intel quad cores that are clocked above 4GHz.
RAM speed between platforms also plays a big part in the performance differences. If you have the crappiest CPU and RAM from Sandy/Ivy then sure worth to upgrade but otherwise not much really if you have 4C/8T and 2000MHz+ RAM.
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Not worth the extra money for just two measly cores IMHO, not unless you need the top of the line single threaded performance for some poorly made game engines such as Arma, GTA, etc.
The extra 2 cores are nice but the price is steep. There is not much difference in games from most modern Intel quad cores that are clocked above 4GHz.
RAM speed between platforms also plays a big part in the performance differences. If you have the crappiest CPU and RAM from Sandy/Ivy then sure worth to upgrade but otherwise not much really if you have 4C/8T and 2000MHz+ RAM.

agree with this, its overpriced now the retailers have started price gauging and other people wanting stupid money for binned versions
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This could mean that if you get a 8700k now it will last another good number of years in the future. I don't think huge leaps in performance will happen anymore like the pre-sandy bridge era. It is harder and harder to shrink the die size and performance gains are minimal, incremental.
I must admit that I am trying to justify my upgrade from the sandy bridge system haha
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Coffee Lake is a disappointment IMO. Pretty much everything since skylake has been nothing more than baby steps

If Coffee Lake is a disappointment to you, I don't see how you could call any generation since Sandy Bridge anything but a disappointment in the desktop space. Skylake was at best 10% faster than Devil's Canyon. How is that not a disappointment? Kaby Lake is, what, a 30% improvement over Sandy Bridge despite 5 generations of optimisation? Coffee Lake is a roughly 50% performance improvement over Kaby Lake. That makes Coffee Lake almost twice as fast as Sandy Bridge. If there was ever a reason to upgrade from Sandy Bridge, it is Coffee Lake.
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Pretty much everything since skylake has been nothing more than baby steps that do nothing more than offer higher clock speeds or higher core count.

That's not true though, Coffee Lake is the first generation since Sandy Bridge to offer a higher core count on the mainstream socket. Ivy Bridge, Haswell, Skylake and Kaby Lake have all been nothing more than slight improvements in IPC and clock speed over Sandy Bridge. Those generations offered nothing interesting but mobile CPU improvements.
Edited by B!0HaZard - 10/31/17 at 2:27pm
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If Coffee Lake is a disappointment to you, I don't see how you could call any generation since Sandy Bridge anything but a disappointment in the desktop space.

Ding ding ding ding ding!!! We have a winner!
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Would have been cool if they used a 1080ti or something stronger than the 1070 to lessen the GPU bottleneck. I didn't think a 2600K held back the 980ti when it came out, so why would it hold the 1070 back? Wasn't a big issue with a lot of the early Coffee Lake benchmarks the fact that they only used a 1080, which really just highlighted that the CPUs were GPU bottlenecked as well (and the 1080 is ~20+% better than the 1070).

I'm blind. Didn't finish the article. Man GTA V makes the 2600K look terrible, but I'm surprised at how well it still hold up today.

GTA V is core hungry and the extra two cores and cache are what make it look so drastically different. Aside from having a core and cache advantage, this just shows how little innovation there has been in the Desktop space.

All of the advancement has been in the lower power envelopes.
    
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post #29 of 302
If the 2600 K works well which is what some people are saying, it is best to keep what you've got and keep using it - If also you have room for another CPU / motherboard you can add an 8700K for later use or wait until you are ready.

If some games become un-playable then it's time to up-grade - From what I've read 2600k does well enough to use very well -
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Well a 8700k has a 800mhz boost advantage on a 2600k. That paired with 1333mhz ram i am suprised there is not a larger gap in performance. I would be more interested in a average overclock on each cpu and the 1080ti with like ddr 1866+ on the 2600k.who is buying a k series cpu to run it stock with in intel spec memory speeds.
Edited by phenom01 - 10/31/17 at 7:12pm
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