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He also said 3 years for architecture dev so Raja failed with 4 years in Vega.

That's a bit strange to directly compare Nvidia to AMD. It's 3 years for Nvidia who has the superior budget, workforce and plan in place for new generations. AMD is nowhere close to the resources Nvidia has, so we can assume 4-5 years is more likely.
    
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The battle isn't about games or even enthusiast consumers... we're now at the kiddy table eating the scraps. I wouldn't be surprised to see an nVidia deep learning solution with its own integrated CPU and proprietary interconnects in the next few years. None of which will be relevant to us or gaming in general.

Thats what they are aiming for with the R&D on NVLink and the integration of ARM cores. Nvidia has known for years that the GPU is becoming a more mainstream co-processor for applications outside of graphical and gaming. They also know they cant get in on x86 due to too many burned bridges, and with ARM gaining popularity in other areas it is easy for them to get in and be able to create ARM cores for the serial aspect of their compute environment.



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Originally Posted by twitchyzero View Post

is Volta blueprint already known?
I feel like we were predicting Pascal to be mostly about deep learning too
Nvidia won't shaft the consumer market by prolonging Pascow into year 3 me believes
even if Volta is a 'refined' Pascal, we're still see sizable gains from the node shrink


Yes we already know the exact specs and block diagram for the Volta server card. We had the same foreknowledge of the Pascal server chip to the Titan as well. The reason we havent seen consumer variants of volta even though there are already server Volta out is there is no reason in the consumer space. Nvidia can milk Pascal plenty without cutting off their legs and still be ahead
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post #13 of 33
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leather jacket probably welcomes an all-out war...he probably wants a reason to release a consumer Volta without holding back...

i'm sure even he doesn't want the fat Ti/Xp to rest on its desktop laurels for too long

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I bet nvidia could easly sit on pascal for another year comfertable if they want for there geforce lineup.

Guess it depends how far along intel is right now...

The earliest we will see anything from Intel is ~4-5 years.

We will be well beyond Volta by the time Intel is competing with Nvidia.

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I don't think intel is going to be going after the consumer market with discrete gpu's. I think the closest thing we will get to a consumer intel gpu will be the amd partnership products for mobile devices and laptops. I can see Intel releasing products that are intended to work hand in hand with the Xeon platform for accelerated AI, deep learning, and things of that nature.

I am interested in the Intel CPU/AMD GPU products, that combo could make for a pretty nice video editing laptop on Mac OS and Windows.

There isn't likely enough ROI in doing just Enterprise/Custom in the GPU market as you wouldn't be able to price the individual parts competitively enough. There would be just too much waste at that point as the Enterprise+ segment is only going to take the most stable and best of the silicon. All of the silicon that doesn't validate for those segments is still viable for consumer and lower tier uses, throwing it away would be far too costly.
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post #14 of 33
5000 engineers dedicated software engineers at one company is pretty impressive.
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5000 engineers dedicated software engineers at one company is pretty impressive.

Ya its crazy to think that Nvidia has over 10,000 employees now days.
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Ya its crazy to think that Nvidia has over 10,000 employees now days.

And then there is AMD with around 9k people trying to fight Nvidia and Intel, managing to stay at a descent level
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And the there is AMD with around 9k people trying to fight Nvidia and Intel.

it also shows how of an outstanding job they are doing after beeing almost starved to death by intels awful bribings to oems.
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That's a bit strange to directly compare Nvidia to AMD. It's 3 years for Nvidia who has the superior budget, workforce and plan in place for new generations. AMD is nowhere close to the resources Nvidia has, so we can assume 4-5 years is more likely.

Sure, but that show weakness with AMD and at the same time just show how false the statement many people seem to say that Vega was not Rajas works. If anything Vega is a 2 years in development architecture and still in works.
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Intel wouldn't risk an SEC investigation if they didn't have a plan. A big plan.

An Earth Shattering plan.
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Sure, but that show weakness with AMD and at the same time just show how false the statement many people seem to say that Vega was not Rajas works. If anything Vega is a 2 years in development architecture and still in works.

The weakness is obvious and should be expected, AMD has been bleeding money (negative net income) for over 10 years now since the acquisition of ATI. It amazes me that AMD can even come close to Nvidia given how they are losing so much money each year. In the meanwhile, Nvidia is making more money than ever this year.

https://ycharts.com/companies/AMD/net_income_ttm
https://ycharts.com/companies/NVDA/net_income_ttm

Vega has a very similar architecture to Fiji and it seems like Raja was probably involved in just improvements for Vega, not necessarily in charge of changing the whole chip. We can't say true/false statements regarding Raja because none of us actually worked with him. Hundreds, if not thousands of employees worked on Vega, so the fact that we're only looking at one person is scapegoating the whole issue.
    
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