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Tossing the argument of regulations aside, in this particular case, I don't think that the Gov. needs to step in and stop loot boxes or in game gambling or whatever. It's ultimately up to the parents to educate their kids.
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Originally Posted by HanSomPa View Post

Tossing the argument of regulations aside, in this particular case, I don't think that the Gov. needs to step in and stop loot boxes or in game gambling or whatever. It's ultimately up to the parents to educate their kids.
This is like saying the law shouldn't step in to stop people from touching kids, I mean its 100% on the parents if they step into the van right?
Child gambling is illegal and Star Wars Battlefront 2 is not rated 18+
The box tells parents its okay

EA is actually a shady alleyway character illegally peddling potentially addictive activities to children who like Star Wars to make money.
Edited by Hunched - 11/18/17 at 2:19pm
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This is like saying the law shouldn't step in to stop people from touching kids, I mean its 100% on the parents if they step into the van right?

This is a false equivalency.
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Child gambling is illegal and Star Wars Battlefront 2 is not rated 18+
The box tells parents its okay

I don't see anything wrong with "child gambling". They have like no money of their own, and if they are stealing their parents' credit card, that's a completely different problem.
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EA is actually a shady alleyway character illegally peddling potentially addictive activities to children who like Star Wars to make money.

Nothing wrong with making money. Not to mention that the loot box mehcanic is nothing new and we've had the same discussions in CSGO. Parents have to watch out for their kids, and the kids without a good parent figure likely don't have any money to gamble anyway. So the point is moot.
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Sure, if a casino wants to skew the chances to be completely or severely in their favor, stop going to that casino. Vote with your wallet.

This is how the free market should work, alas people would rather have some politicians, who know nothing about video games, start regulating them instead.

I don't know how you can't see this being problematic in the future.

And how is someone supposed to gauge for themselves whether or not a casino is programming their games fairly? As a developer, I'd like to see the code. Obviously they wouldn't let me do that. So my next best option is to go there and play for a day -- but seeing as I'm assuming the casino games are operating under strictly probabilistic outcomes, even if I lose everything today I could assume luck was not on my side and maybe I'll fair better next time. This goes the same for everyone else in the casino.

But here's an idea... maybe I could take a look and see how many other folks have won. However, with no regulations they could just as easily fill these games with fake data telling me that X amount of people won X amount of money, meaning I too can have a shot at those winnings!

The idea is that casinos can carefully and expertly craft their games to extract as much money out of players as possible while guaranteeing as little payout as possible, whilst making it appear as if they're paying out the BIG BUX because folks who play here JUST CAN'T STOP WINNING! It'd be tantamount to fraud if you removed the regulations surrounding these machines, and really to the fullest extent allowed by the law these casinos already do this.
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Or you could just not gamble. But that's just me.
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I think we need to regulate gambling like this in video games to protect children. We also need to regulate violent and sexual content in games. To protect the children. thumb.gif
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I think we need to regulate gambling like this in video games to protect children. We also need to regulate violent and sexual content in games. To protect the children. thumb.gif
We already do that for violent and sexual content, it's called an ESRB rating.
Edited by Hunched - 11/18/17 at 3:35pm
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We already do that for sexual content, it's called an ESRB rating.

Well, since people are petitioning governments to address the lootbox epidemic to protect the children, I think it's only fair that the ESRB be eliminated and replaced with the Department of Video Games to regulate this content which negatively impacts our children.
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Well, since people are petitioning governments to address the lootbox epidemic to protect the children, I think it's only fair that the ESRB be eliminated and replaced with the Department of Video Games to regulate this content which negatively impacts our children.
Sounds good to me, maybe a better name though.
I don't care what happens to the ESRB.

Regulation agencies actually work in some countries, EA and the big names would at least have to fight to corrupt them instead of getting by with no opposition.

Gambling addiction is a real problem people have and there's no reason these dirty corporations should be introducing it to kids and profiting off it.
Are you in a love triangle with TmarTn and Syndicate or something?
Edited by Hunched - 11/18/17 at 3:58pm
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Sounds good to me, maybe a better name though.
I don't care what happens to the ESRB.

Regulation agencies actually work in some countries, EA and the big names would at least have to fight to corrupt them instead of getting by with no opposition.

Gambling addiction is a real problem people have and there's no reason these dirty corporations should be introducing it to kids and profiting off it.
Are you in a love triangle with TmarTn and Syndicate or something?

Violent crimes and sex crimes are also rising among our youth. So we really do need government intervention in video games. thumb.gif
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