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After spending the better part of the last 4 days researching this is what I've either purchased or plan to. I got the 850w PSU because it was $10 more and figured why not. Also went with the gtx 1050 GPU since it was only 40-50 more just in case I want to play a game or two. Still undecided on which cooler and monitor to get. Let me know if you see anything I should reconsider/rethink please!

[PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TTw6TH) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TTw6TH/by_merchant/)

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**CPU** | [AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9Q98TW/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-34ghz-8-core-processor-yd170xbcaewof) | $229.99 @ Micro Center
**CPU Cooler** | [Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hJFPxr/deepcool-cpu-cooler-gammaxx400) | $13.89 @ Amazon
**Motherboard** | [ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yBtWGX/asrock-ab350-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350-pro4) | $59.99 @ Micro Center
**Memory** | [G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory](https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820232415) |- $290 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FrH48d/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e500bam) | $149.99 @ B&H
**Video Card** | [EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB ACX 2.0 Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sc4NnQ/evga-geforce-gtx-1050-2gb-acx-20-video-card-02g-p4-6150-kr) | $84.99 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jWFXsY/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-850w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-850fx) | $69.99 @ Newegg
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Edited by 4gvnsnr - 11/22/17 at 3:48pm
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Any insight on if that memory should work? I wasn't able to get any definitive answer but I believe it is Hynix not Samsung B die. But it was by far the cheapest 3200 memory I could find for 32gb.
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Any insight on if that memory should work? I wasn't able to get any definitive answer but I believe it is Hynix not Samsung B die. But it was by far the cheapest 3200 memory I could find for 32gb.

32gb is dual rank. If it's dual rank hynix you won't make 3200, but it will work - maybe 2800?

If you haven't bought just yet, you might want to consider the ab350 fatality gaming k4. Upgraded VRMs for 15 dollars more.
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I don't understand why such a program needs a high ram count, Or hell even a high core count to be honest, all it is doing is checking probability vs what is already seen in poker.


And secondly if you need such a machine capable of a workload, Get a used rackmount multi socket server running on either X58 or x79 they can be found cheap as chips with easily upgradeable parts and will absolutely curbstomp most mainstream desktop processors for pure core count + processing power.

2x 8 core 16 thread sandy/ivy can probably be found under 500 usd and it comes with IGP and redundant hardware
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Does this forum hate OEMs so much that we had to recommend a build that was worse and more expensive?

The premise was that he didn't need the RX 580, but then you recommended him RAM, an SSD and a PSU that he also doesn't need.

All the while not including the cost of Windows.

I'd buy the prebuilt.
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32gb is dual rank. If it's dual rank hynix you won't make 3200, but it will work - maybe 2800?

If you haven't bought just yet, you might want to consider the ab350 fatality gaming k4. Upgraded VRMs for 15 dollars more.


I did buy the mobo/CPU already and it was in store. Unless I want to make another 6 hr round trip those are the only two parts I really can't return.

I also picked up 16gb of Flare X that is definitely B die so haven't decided which I'll go with yet. Might try the 32 out and see what kind of speeds I can get with it and if it isn't satisfactory go with the 16.
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I don't understand why such a program needs a high ram count, Or hell even a high core count to be honest, all it is doing is checking probability vs what is already seen in poker.


And secondly if you need such a machine capable of a workload, Get a used rackmount multi socket server running on either X58 or x79 they can be found cheap as chips with easily upgradeable parts and will absolutely curbstomp most mainstream desktop processors for pure core count + processing power.

2x 8 core 16 thread sandy/ivy can probably be found under 500 usd and it comes with IGP and redundant hardware

I can't explain why it needs it I only know that it does. With the edge program there are reports of 128g being a limitation.

And I have no idea what the rest of what you said means. smile.gif
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Does this forum hate OEMs so much that we had to recommend a build that was worse and more expensive?

The premise was that he didn't need the RX 580, but then you recommended him RAM, an SSD and a PSU that he also doesn't need.

All the while not including the cost of Windows.

I'd buy the prebuilt.

Just when I finally get comfortable with the whole notion of building this thing haha. But I do appreciate you trying to help me out here. I assume when you say worse you mainly are referring to the GPU?
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Just when I finally get comfortable with the whole notion of building this thing haha. But I do appreciate you trying to help me out here. I assume when you say worse you mainly are referring to the GPU?
Building your own computer is great. It's something I think everyone should do at least once in their life.

But the value of that first Inspiron for $800 (if you opt to not have a side window) is unbeatable. Now is a pretty awful time to build PCs because prices are inflated way above MSRP and OEMs are paying wholesale.

No way in balls do you need 32GB of ram. I severely doubt you need more than 8GB. If for some reason you find yourself needing more than 8GB of ram, you're in luck, you can buy more ram later.

SSDs are great, but 500GB of total storage is pretty terrible. 240GB SSDs can be had for $70 and 1TB HDDs can be had for $45. (SSD as boot drive, HDD as data)

You don't need an RX 580, that's true. But a 1050 (non-Ti) is almost of waste of money. I use more than 2GB of VRAM in Rocket League...

A 1050ti 4GB is a better buy.

Just get a decent ~500Watt PSU from a name brand.
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