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Originally Posted by naz2 View Post

visit any auto forum and you'll get a proper perspective on electric sports cars

"They're not true sports cars"

"Real enthusiasts would want an internal combustion engine"

"Electric cars take hours to charge, it takes 20 minutes at the most to fill a fuel tank"

 

That's all the real points they have, just different variations of those points.

 

Point 1 is irrelevant, you ask them to define what a true sports car is, and even the people with a "proper perspective" would argue amongst themselves over whether it's a 1990 Miata because it's light, cheap and rear wheel drive or a Koenigsegg Agera R because it's currently the fastest car money can buy, at least from the factory.

 

Point 2 is also irrelevant, a "real enthusiast" would like all sorts of vehicles, no matter what their intended purpose is. Not to mention electric cars are slowly becoming cheaper alternatives to go very, very quickly and not just in a straight line.

 

Point 3 kind of irrelevant unless you regularly do 200-300 miles per day, you can recharge an electric car at home over night but it's very unlikely you can refuel a gas/diesel car at home. Electric cars take 6-8 hours to fully charge, and unless you get home, go to bed immediately then wake up in 5 hours and immediately do your 250 mile per day commute, an electric car is viable for you. Either that, or if you live in a city center, in which case owning any type of car is stupid.

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Originally Posted by andrews2547 View Post

I think he's talking about the truck, not the Roadster.
yes the truck, looking at the chassis makes me think of it scrapping over humps and bumps.
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Originally Posted by andrews2547 View Post

Point 3 kind of irrelevant unless you regularly do 200-300 miles per day, you can recharge an electric car at home over night but it's very unlikely you can refuel a gas/diesel car at home. Electric cars take 6-8 hours to fully charge, and unless you get home, go to bed immediately then wake up in 5 hours and immediately do your 250 mile per day commute, an electric car is viable for you. Either that, or if you live in a city center, in which case owning any type of car is stupid.
theres also fast charging 0%~80% within 30minutes, 80% charge is just as good for day-to-day commute.
Edited by epic1337 - 11/17/17 at 5:23pm
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Originally Posted by naz2 View Post

tesla has attained apple-like cult status, all the buzz right now is coming from the mainstream. visit any auto forum and you'll get a proper perspective on electric sports cars

The proper perspective is that ICE sports cars are dated and the only good thing about them will be their sound because even a Picanto EV scrub will give them a run for their money.
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Both look nice.
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tesla has attained apple-like cult status, all the buzz right now is coming from the mainstream. visit any auto forum and you'll get a proper perspective on electric sports cars

btw you think you can replicate the sound and energy of a real engine through....sound design? by pumping fake noise through speakers? lol

 

So... you have nothing to back up your 'point' that no one would want a 'mute' supercar then. Ho hum.

 

And I don't know about perfectly reproducing the sound and 'energy' of a real engine, but with $800,000 to play with, I bet you could come pretty darn close.

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visit any auto forum and you'll get a proper perspective on electric sports cars
As a car enthusiast first, I dont get why some people cant accept electric sport cars. They offer anther angle to driving. Nothing will replace the sound and feel of a v8 engine in my eye's. But after driving a tesla my jaw dropped, the torque is phenomenal. It's like having the response of a NA engine but then the feeling of big turbos kicking in. Im extremely excited about this car and hope it pushes companies to come out with better sports cars. My dream is to have a 3-4L v8 hybrid sports car.
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As a motorsport enthusiast i care about performance first. Noise does not equal performance. ICE engines by design will never be able to put down 100% torque at all rpm and traction levels. Why do you think supercars these days are be supplemented with hybrid systems or going full electric? Instant torque.
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Maybe its the American spirit inside me, but i am just not all giddy about electric cars. I like them big loud v8's sucking up all the earths natural resources and making tree huggers cry when i drive by.
post #49 of 210
why not have both? an engine power with electric transmission.
heck you can even do an unorthodox hybrid, front-engine + rear-electric AWD drive.
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"thermonuclear explosion proof glass"

Without a distance qualifier, you can make such a statement about anything and be completely accurate.

I'll blow you a spit bubble that will withstand a 50 megaton thermonuclear explosion...at 1000km.
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If a thermonuclear explosion breaks the glass, you will get a refund. Except, you'd be dead so you can't get a refund.

Even armored glass generally survives less overpressure than a human...eardrums are another matter though.
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Currently a standard EU heavy truck with semitrailer is allowed to have a maximum length of 18.35 meters and a maximum weight of 40 tons. The Cab is allowed to be 2.55 m wide and 4.00 m high. The minimal lenght of this cab is 2,35 meters. So in Europe the maximum lenght of a truck with semi trailer includes the length of the cab, which means that a cab with nose takes away length required in the cargo area. This is the main reason. Another reason: In Europe most truck drivers do not own their trucks, they are employees. So they usually do not stay in their vehicles for an extended period of time. In most cases it is not required that a truck provides enough space to spend a whole living in it.
Many european drivers would love to drive a nose truck. It is regarded to be more comfortable to drive and it is easier to enter and leave the drivers seat. But most european cargo tools are standardized to fit into the scheme, and a longer cabin means a shorter trailer, which easily can cut away 20% of the earnings.

The fact that this has a 500 mile range and isn't a cab-over design strongly suggests it's not for those markets.
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