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[The Verge] The Tesla Roadster Hypercar and Semi Truck

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The Event:
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Last night, Tesla had a bit of a celebration for itself, unveiling its new Semi truck and (in a surprise) a second-generation Roadster. It was a typical Tesla event, full of twists, shocks, and plenty of smoke and mirrors. The soundtrack rocked, the starry-eyed fans lapped it up, and now you can watch the highlights in this supercut we made for you. You're welcome.
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The Roadster:
"WILL BE THE FASTEST PRODUCTION CAR EVER MADE"



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Musk claimed the base model will do zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds, which if true would make it the first time a production vehicle cracked the 2-second threshold. He also said the new Roadster would climb from 0 to 100 mph in 4.2 seconds, and will clear the quarter mile in 8.9 seconds
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Musk said he wouldn't confirm the top speed, but hinted that it was "above 250 mph." By comparison, the Agera RS by Sweden's Koenigsegg currently holds the world record at 277.9 mph.
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As fans gasped, Musk said the Roadster had a 200kwh battery pack and a 620-mile range per charge, or over 1,000 kilometers. Again, another record shattered. Or so Musk claims. Imagine driving to Los Angeles to San Francisco, and back, without recharging, Musk teased.
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The base model will start at $200,000, and with a $50,000 deposit required upfront. Interested parties can place their deposits today.
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If Tesla can match its claimed specs for the Roadster, it should strike fear in the hearts of every supercar maker currently building cars. The only comparable cars to the Roadster are the hybrid supercars, which all cost around $1 million.
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If Tesla is building a faster, cheaper, and totally electric supercar for a fourth of the price? It's going to be a sleepless few years for those carmakers.
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The Truck:
"500 miles of range and more aerodynamic than a supercar"


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promising a range in the neighborhood of 500 miles for the Class 8 heavy-duty vehicle. Earlier reports pegged the range between 200 and 300 miles, but Musk delighted in besting those numbers in his remarks, including his claim that the truck has a 400-mile range with 30 minutes of charging. Musk had also promised self-driving abilities, and Tesla says this delivers at least semi-autonomous capability.
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Yes, there's a "frunk" up there, with some storage and access points for some service repairs. The door handles are flush-mounted, too, because they come off a Model 3.
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The streamlined look of the Tesla semi truck is made possible by the battery pack mounted under the floor of the cab, and the driver's seat mounted significantly more forward than of those the Freightliner or International trucks. Behind the cab, the two rear axles have electric motors attached on either side, for four in total. They also come off of existing Tesla models. The design gives the Tesla semi truck a lower center of gravity than diesel-powered models.
 
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i don't think that'll work on any road...
but seriously, is there even any clearance beneath that thing? what would happen if theres a hump or bump on the road or something.
 
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Originally Posted by epic1337 View Post

i don't think that'll work on any road...
but seriously, is there even any clearance beneath that thing? what would happen if theres a hump or bump on the road or something.
It's almost as if it's a concept vehicle to show the type of styling they want to go for rather than a concept vehicle that will show how functional it would be.
 
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Originally Posted by epic1337 View Post

i don't think that'll work on any road...
but seriously, is there even any clearance beneath that thing? what would happen if theres a hump or bump on the road or something.
It's almost as if it's a concept vehicle to show the type of styling they want to go for rather than a concept vehicle that will show how functional it would be.
The ground clearance actually looks better than most cars of that class anyways. It just seems like an odd thing to pick on
 
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The ground clearance actually looks better than most cars of that class anyways. It just seems like an odd thing to pick on
I think he's talking about the truck, not the Roadster.

Although, you are right about the Roadster, it looks like it has more clearance than an Lotus Elise which has no problems getting over these stupid speed bumps we have here

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I'm still skeptical.
"thermonuclear explosion proof glass"

automatic driving controls that work in snow and construction

7c/kwh electricity guaranteed

taken with a grain of salt.

But the car is pretty neat. All practicality arguments go out the window when you are talking about supercars. The faster the better.
 
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Originally Posted by djriful View Post

I am sensing all car industries are having a heartattack. The competition is unreal, Tesla is generation ahead till cost is affordable.

For long term business trucking, this is viable if charge stations are setup all over the world.
I will give it to Telsa. The company is getting the other companies off their rear ends.

Ford actual finally bringing a hybrid truck in 2020. Though, I think VIA and Workhorse are the ones who got the others off their butt ends on hybrid trucks (if I could afford a Workhorse hybrid truck, I would buy one).
 
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Tesla Roadster fastest no way. Quickest maybe. Whiplash insurence not included.
 
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Tesla Roadster fastest no way. Quickest maybe. Whiplash insurence not included.
It remains to be seen really, they're claiming over 250mph, the current official production car record is 267mph, so it isn't that far off.

And to be fair, that was the Veyron Super Sport, which at 30 units produced is hardly a production car, and the actual production version was only capable of 258mph.

The only other 250mph+ production car with an official top speed is the original Veyron at 253mph, which is probably within reach.
 
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It remains to be seen really, they're claiming over 250mph, the current official production car record is 267mph, so it isn't that far off.

And to be fair, that was the Veyron Super Sport, which at 30 units produced is hardly a production car, and the actual production version was only capable of 258mph.

The only other 250mph+ production car with an official top speed is the original Veyron at 253mph, which is probably within reach.
284 MPH now.

There are two other manufacturers set to try to beat that in the coming months.
 
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I can only imagine how hot the battery gets when it discharges all of that power to move so fast, or move so much weight, quickly.

The semi truck one is most intriguing. Is that 500 miles at 55mph? I haven't had the chance to click the link yet, worth a read tonight.

Really cool stuff, this is true next gen stuff right here, though question is... will the price be there?

Now, to bash Tesla... how's the Model 3's production timeline?
 
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284 MPH now.

There are two other manufacturers set to try to beat that in the coming months.
Go Koenigsegg
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277.9 is the official record for the Koenigsegg Agera RS as it needs to be the averag over two runs in opposite directions to take out environmental factors. 284 mph was the max speed achieved in one direction.

The Agera RS used for the record has the 1 MW motor so tesla will need quite the battery and motors in the roadster handle that kind of power.
 
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There's a reason trucks are flat at the front, Tesla can't wave a magic wand and change how laws and cargo capacity changes
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What in the Hell are you on about?
Currently a standard EU heavy truck with semitrailer is allowed to have a maximum length of 18.35 meters and a maximum weight of 40 tons. The Cab is allowed to be 2.55 m wide and 4.00 m high. The minimal lenght of this cab is 2,35 meters. So in Europe the maximum lenght of a truck with semi trailer includes the length of the cab, which means that a cab with nose takes away length required in the cargo area. This is the main reason. Another reason: In Europe most truck drivers do not own their trucks, they are employees. So they usually do not stay in their vehicles for an extended period of time. In most cases it is not required that a truck provides enough space to spend a whole living in it.
Many european drivers would love to drive a nose truck. It is regarded to be more comfortable to drive and it is easier to enter and leave the drivers seat. But most european cargo tools are standardized to fit into the scheme, and a longer cabin means a shorter trailer, which easily can cut away 20% of the earnings.
 
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284 MPH now.

There are two other manufacturers set to try to beat that in the coming months.
The Agera RS is another one of those "production cars" that isn't really a production car tho, at a measly 25 handcrafted units made.

Maybe, the P15 will get closer to production car numbers, although I doubt it. Not sure who the other manufacturer is?
 
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