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My brother just bought a gaming computer. Can it handle any current game in high settings?

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#1 ·
I still use a 2009 laptop and play old games myself. But my brother has a PS4 and plays video games. Age of empires 4 is coming out soon so I am definitely happy that he bought it hehe.

I am still learning about computers, took a long break from them since they are frustrating as hell. Plus cell phones handle emails, browsing and shopping etc...

Here is a picture. How good is his Graphics card? Will it play ANY game in high settings?

Motherboard - ASUS H110 Plus
RAM - ADATA XPG 288 Pin DDR4 2400
GPU - MSI GTX 1060 3GB
CPU - Intel i7-7700 3.6Ghz
CPU Cooler - AVC 80mm (GARBAGE)
Case Fans - AVC 120mm (BOTH GARBAGE)
Power Supply - Allied 500W Non Modular (GARBAGE)
SSD - ADATA SU600 120GB
HDD - Western Digital Blue 1TB 7200 RPM

I just learned what ddr2 vs 3 are, what 800mhz ram vs 1066 means etc... So i am barely learning, but its fun stuff being able to come to these forums and pretty much know everything about each spec by the end of the discussion. People are passionate, which changes my personal attitude and aproach to computers vs back in the day
 
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#2 ·
Looks like most of the parts are bottom of the barrel for quality. Barebones motherboard, locked CPU, I cannot find anything on the CPU cooler by that name - just fans, if the PSU is this model then RIP computer, and a 1060 isn't that great for recent games on high. For the games I play, it would be fine if I was still on 1080p.
I hope he didn't pay anything more than $600 for it.

EDIT: Also low speed RAM. That isn't as big of a deal as the other parts, but it shows even more budget/basic/dangerous parts.

EDIT 2: If you are wondering about the PSU since sometimes these in depth reviews can be a bit much...
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...after recording the data and scope readings, the Allied exploded. And I'm not talking about the quiet pop of a blown fuse either, this was something to make one holler things like, "Incoming!" "Honey, I'm so scared, what's happening?" and, "You'll never take me alive, coppers!" This was accompanied by a light show to rival the best Hollywood pyrotechnics displays. I distinctly heard Mother Nature yell out, "Now that's not fair, I can do lightning WAY better than that!"
 
#9 ·
Psu is the power supply. Locked cpu mean you can't overclock the cpu.
 
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Originally Posted by Resendiz View Post

it says 4.2 turbo. is this the same as overclocked?
No, that's what it'll boost one core to if it is running a single-thread with heavy CPU load and the thermal profile is within tolerances.

For the most part that system is not terrible. The GTX 1060 is nominally the competitor to the RX 480, and seems to generally do better than it:

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB-vs-AMD-RX-480/3639vs3634

Right now:

- Try optimizing the memory timings and see if you can perhaps overclock the RAM. You will need something like memtest86+ to check that the memory is good: http://www.memtest.org/ (Use it to check stability in overclocking the RAM)
- Ditto for the graphics card : see if you can tweak it a little bit and give it a bit of extra oomph. You'll need GPU diagnostics to find out what your card is: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
- You will also want to gather info about your system. Use CPU-Z, here: https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
- Check that you have ADATA's SSD utility installed; it's a good way to keep track of how the drive is doing and read out some diagnostics if you ever need it.
- Replace the power supply with a good name-brand model. I suggest eVGA, XFX, Seasonic, or the like. Edit to add - do this before you begin overclocking anything.

Down the road:

- Consider replacing the H110 with an H170 chipset board.
- Consider replacing the heatsink/fan on the CPU with something like a Hyper 212 EVO: http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/hyper-212-evo/
- Consider adding some hard drive space: see if a Toshiba DT01ACA200 model is available on Amazon.

Aside from that if your brother has had no complaints, then the "right now" is really all you need to do.
 
#12 ·
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Originally Posted by Quantum Reality View Post

For the most part that system is not terrible.
It is terrible. Only good things about it are the 7700 and the 1060.
It's likely he won't be able to do anything with the RAM that is worth while since it's likely cheaply made RAM and the board isn't equipped to be able to mess with RAM/timings.
Do not OC the GPU, that unit exploded while outputting 350W. I would be scared to turn on that system with that PSU in it.

Replacing the PSU, board, OS, RAM, cooling, and likely case as well, he might as well return it and start from scratch. Seriously, this has to be some of the worst parts you could pair with a 7700 and a 1060... Only thing I could see worse is toothpaste TIM and Diablotek PSU. Then again, this PSU may be even worse...
 
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Originally Posted by AcEsSalvation View Post

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Originally Posted by Quantum Reality View Post

For the most part that system is not terrible.
It is terrible. Only good things about it are the 7700 and the 1060.
It's likely he won't be able to do anything with the RAM that is worth while since it's likely cheaply made RAM and the board isn't equipped to be able to mess with RAM/timings.
Do not OC the GPU, that unit exploded while outputting 350W. I would be scared to turn on that system with that PSU in it.

Replacing the PSU, board, OS, RAM, cooling, and likely case as well, he might as well return it and start from scratch. Seriously, this has to be some of the worst parts you could pair with a 7700 and a 1060... Only thing I could see worse is toothpaste TIM and Diablotek PSU. Then again, this PSU may be even worse...
It depends on how seriously the fellow takes his gaming. If he just wants something to kill time on, it'll work. OCN has a tendency to treat any system less than The! Best! as being terrible as blazes, when in reality middle-of-the-road computers are often acceptable compromises when money is an issue - and the system above is salvageable if the PSU is replaced. That's the main weakness right now. (it's kind of implied not to OC anything until after the PSU is replaced, anyway)

ASIDE: The heatsink in use right now is very likely the Intel stock heatsink. The original poster seems to have confused one of the case fans for a CPU fan.
 
#14 ·
To back up what AcEsSalvation said about the PSU (power supply), here's a review that JohnnyGURU did on that unit:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=65

It didn't even make it through the testing.... I would definitely take that PC back, and either find a more reputable company to buy a pre-built PC from (and have the members here look it over). An even better alternative would be still returning that PC, then starting a thread on here where you mention a budget and have the members suggest parts. You'll be able to get all sorts of opinions and different build options, then assemble the rig with your brother. A third option would be to swap out that PSU for a better one, though I'd consult either TwoCables or Shilka (both are OCN members) for a good replacement PSU.
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#20 ·
"my brother..."

OCN may be toxic and outright hostile of late, but that's low. Just let the balls drop and ask for advice.
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"my brother..."

OCN may be toxic and outright hostile of late, but that's low. Just let the balls drop and ask for advice.
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#23 ·
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Are you guys saying that if he paid over $600, you can build a better one for the same amount, slightly higher or less? This might be a good opportunity to work on something with my younger brother and learn at the same time.
In my experience, you get what you pay for with pre-builts. The specs often seem great for the price until you realize that the key components like PSU and motherboards are often incredibly crap and low-quality in many pre-builts. You're spending a little less up front, but more often than not over the lifetime of the PC it will either be just as expensive or possibly even more expensive to purchase a lower-quality pre-built versus a custom machine because you'll likely be replacing some of the parts the pre-built shipped with, making the cost-savings argument fairly moot.

Anyway, all of the information you need in regards to how your computer will perform in gaming can be acquired with a simple google search. As others have said, that power supply is a ticking time-bomb. The ASUS H110 PLUS is extremely basic and severely limits your RAM upgrade potential. Almost all of your cooling components are garbage, and cooling is extremely important in PCs that will be used for gaming. Your CPU is locked, meaning you won't be able to overclock at all. Honestly, for a first build I believe a locked CPU is fine because I've seen way too many folks who have absolutely no idea what they're doing when they attempt to overclock their chips give it a go and end up with damaged hardware as a result.

Overall, I'd be incredibly displeased to find a family member had purchased such a machine. My girlfriend is actually dealing with pre-built issues as well, and it seems the most likely culprit is indeed her PSU. She insisted she save a bit of money, though... Now she gets to deal with a months-long RMA process.
 
#24 ·
The system should be fine. A 7700/1060 will be more then enough for high 1080p settings in newer games. The ram speed is a non-issue since you're more likely to be gpu bottlenecked. As for the mobo/psu/other is what it is. Don't try to oc and maybe think about replacing the psu down the line.

Not sure what the issue is with a 1060 and high settings. The benchmarks I'm looking at put newer games pulling 60 fps+ easy with the 6gb version. 3gb version can't be that far behind.

Shadow of War (Benchmarked on ultra 1080p 59fps, can assume 60+ on high)
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/middle_earth_shadow_of_war_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,4.html

Destiny 2 (HIgh 102 fps)
https://www.techspot.com/review/1478-destiny-2-pc-benchmarks/

Battlefront 2 (Ultra 85 fps)
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/star_wars_battlefront_ii_2017_pc_graphics_analysis_benchmark_review,4.html

Call of Duty ww2 (107 fps)
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/call_of_duty_ww2_pc_graphics_analysis_benchmark_review,4.html
 
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